You know the really sad this about this. If they just threw out the 85 Mpa tanks and the balky PEM fuel cell and just fitted a lithium battery pack they could probably have it on the road and selling next week.

Instead we have to wait 10 more years for the corporate friendly idea of the hydrogen economy to roll around to get one of these.

So, by that same definition, if an electric car had LiIon batteries, AND Capacitors THAT would be a hybrid?
Or LiIon + NIMH? NIMH + Caps?

Ash,

If the capacitors were another source of propulsion apart from the main electric system, then technically it would be a hybrid.

Heck, GM calls it's Silverado with a a start-stop alternator a "hybrid" despite the start-stop system providing no propulsion whatsoever. But of course, my most industry accounts, people do not consider the Silverado Hybrid as an *actual* hybrid.

Ash, in response to your email as well as your post: It's not my definition that you are questioning. It's the definition of a hybrid as laid down by the engineering world. Don't shoot the messenger.

Using your hypothetical example, Li-Ion, Ni-MH, and caps would all provide the same form of energy – electric current – used for propulsion. The key is to looks for two separate sources of energy, each providing energy in a form that is different from the other.

Even the experts can get it wrong: Toyota's technical publications department referred to the Prius as a parallel hybrid when they first released it in North America in 2000. It's a series-parallel hybrid.

I'm no trying to shoot any messengers, it just seems silly to me to use the label of hybrid if the power sources are the same form of energy (ie: 2 different sources of electric don't make a hybrid to me)

There are many people who have added a 2nd gasoline engine to show cars/performance cars. I don't think that counts as a hybrid, but by what others have said is the standard definition, then I suppose it would have to be? (Could run off either engine A or engine B, despite that it's the same type of power source).

So, I shall add a B&S to my accessory belt and call it a hybrid! ;)

I would like to buy one now!!!! Please notify me when I can order one thanks.

If everyone stopped buying and leasing new gasoline powered cars, how long you think it would take before the Government and car manufacturers roll out the hydrogen powered fuel cell cars and hydrogen fueling stations? Loss of revenue is the most powerful and persuasive motivator. Why should they sell new technology if people keep buying the old.
By the way if you're looking for a performance electric car, look up the Tesla.
http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

May12th,2007 --7:30pm NY time
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Gentlemen
As shown in my web pages electric vehicles will play a major role in
future global transportation. Not until all countries agree on
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Technologies and the like will the public make the big switch
and even then as time moves on they to will then again require
modifications to adapt to an even more advanced dual mode maglev
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add -- /electriCar.html -- for typical swap stations
(I can design them) also my Maglev system -- /dualmodemaglev.html --
presented to US DOT in the 1960s which many are now trying to claim
the ideas. I hope I can be of help to all and good wishes to all of you. Jack Marchand

P.S. It is of importance for all car and battery manufacturers to
agree and participate to make the EV battery swap stations infrastructure succeed.

May12th,2007 --7:30pm NY time
My website -- http://trillions.topcities.com --

Gentlemen
As shown in my web pages electric vehicles will play a major role in
future global transportation. Not until all countries agree on
standardizing the battery size and voltage for quick ( one minute)
swap battery recharging stations owned by GE or Exide, Hybrid
Technologies and the like will the public make the big switch
and even then as time moves on they to will then again require
modifications to adapt to an even more advanced dual mode maglev
riding elevated high speed pipeline guideways. In my website above
add -- /electriCar.html -- for typical swap stations
(I can design them) also my Maglev system -- /dualmodemaglev.html --
presented to US DOT in the 1960s which many are now trying to claim
the ideas. I hope I can be of help to all and good wishes to all of you. Jack Marchand

P.S. It is of importance for all car and battery manufacturers to
agree and participate to make the EV battery swap stations infrastructure succeed.

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