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F250
The 2007 F-250 Super Duty pickup.

Ford Motor will offer a new 6.4-liter Power Stroke diesel in its 2008 F-Series Super Duty pickup, to go on sale early in 2007.

The new engine —which will replace the current 6.0-liter V-8—and aftertreatment system is designed for Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD), will use piezo-electric injectors in its high-pressure, common-rail fuel injection system and feature a new diesel particulate filter system. The 6.4-liter diesel system will have PM emissions comparable to that of a gasoline engine, according to Ford.

More details will be available at the official announcement at the Texas State Fair in September.

Ford has sold 1.3 million diesel-powered F-Series pickups in the US since 2001. On an annual basis, Ford sells more diesel-powered pickup trucks than Chevrolet and Dodge combined. Nearly three-quarters of all Ford Super Duty trucks are sold with the Power Stroke diesel.

Comments

Aussie

It should almost have enough power to go to the store for a carton of milk.

Sebastian

great to see that ford america starts using new technology, only problem is that there will be no chance for b10 or b100 diesel fuels, but can´t get everything

John Ard

Aussie:
Be reasonable. Some people need trucks like this. Other people buy them because the fuel mileage is comparable to a mid-size truck and one can fit the entire family in it and pull the house across the street. :)

Let's hope Ford improves their reliability with this engine. I've known several who have taken the truck back after it wouldn't idle or started smoking a couple hundred miles in to ownership. These guys all drive Chevy Duramaxes or Dodge Cummins now.

ForrestGump

Sebastian, what do you mean? This engine, just like any diesel engine, should run on any percentage biodiesel up to 100.

Thomas Pedersen

Aussie wrote:

It should almost have enough power to go to the store for a carton of milk.

LOL!!!

We have nearly no trucks like this in Denmark, but one of the few we do have belongs to a guy in my appartment building. You can hear it coming several hundred meters away, even in dense city traffic. It even blocks out the noise from accelerating trains right next to it! I love it when he presses the accelerator - it doesn't go much faster, but it gets even louder...

Forgive me, I'm biased agains pick-up trucks in general. But especially this Ford F-2500 with the edge of the storage space above shoulder height. How can you ever use this space.

But most of all, I love that fact that if he rear-ends me, I will be crushed, just to please his male ego, or deficiency, or whatever...

Other than that, it's probably great that this vehicle now has an even bigger engine with piezo-electric fuel nozzles...

John Ard

Yes, trucks like this are stupid to own in city/suburb areas. But those who live beyond Suburbia (like me) have need for such things. We use our Dodge 2500 Cummins to tow our tractor, boat, and the occasional 10,000lb. of concrete. A little truck just won't do the kind of things we need done. The Fords have always sufered from less torque than the competition and poor reliability, so this is good news for those who demand their truck be "Ford Tough". Also, these trucks get mileage in the low 20s which is better than anything but a midsize. My Dodge gets 15MPG when pulling a 16ft. trailer with 10,000lb of concrete through the hills of central Alabama. I know that sounds like crap, but the V8 Dodge we traded for the diesel got around 12MPG empty and struggled to pull a Volkswagen Jetta (returning about 6MPG in the process).

Sid Hoffman

All hail the diesel age! This is good news for those of us who'd like to see a transition away from gasoline usage and towards diesel and biodiesel.

Sebastian

here in germany every newer diesel engine, and i think piezo technology is pretty new stuff, is not allowed anymore to use b100 diesel because the new injection technology just doesn´t like it and especially for the emission reduction system like diesel particulate filter its not suitable

Chris Carpenter

Thomas,

I'm glad you don't need to tow a 10,000 lb camper or horse trailer as I do, or have a large property to manage or haul dirt and brush, clear hurricane debris or do any number of heavy hauling jobs that tens of thousands of Americans have to deal with on a regular basis. The diesel powered F250 series type trucks serve a real need here and get 30-40% better fuel mileage than thier gasoline brethren.

I grew tired of repeatedly repairing transmissions in previous smaller trucks and SUVs while hauling the loads these larger trucks were designed for. When I towed with a big gasoline engine equipped SUV I would average 6 mpg, the F250 outweighs my former SUV by 1.5X yet it gets 13 mpg hauling the same load and doesn't overheat in the mountains. If I'm not towing it averages between 17-20 mpg which is pretty amazing for a 6000 lb vehicle. While my wife's diesel Jetta averages 38 mpg. We both run biodiesel that I have to haul back from the coop in the next county in 55gal drums that weigh 700 lbs each (couldn't do that with her Jetta).

In short I think few people buy these trucks to "be seen in them" although I'm sure there are a few. The F250 is expensive, loud, rides lousy and is difficult to park. If someone wants a big vehicle to be seen in they'll get a Hummer or an International CXT. I see a lot of F250 type trucks in the area where I live and they are usually hauling something or are loaded with cargo.

I'm glad to have my behemoth and sorry that you have to live in a world where everyone can't get along with an electric scooter

marcus

I'm simply curious Thomas. How do farmers cope without trucks like this in Denmark?

Patrick

They don't use trucks like this in Japan either. The only trucks I ever drove were 660cc engined vehicles and that was when I worked for a construction company. Now, for the true "heavy" jobs you would have a large truck with a specially licensed operator.

Quite frankly, I would regulate to death large trucks...you would have to fill out a stack of papers showing your need for the truck (commercial purposes) and then have to get extra licensing for the size & weight of the vehicle (especially since you can and most probably will be towing very heavy loads) and then I would allow all properly registered and licensed business owners requiring these trucks to claim a tax exemption up to the value of the truck. This keeps the casual user from buying the truck and gives a benefit for the small business owner/farmer who needs the trucks.

Ever notice how large SUV sales dip but large truck sales stay strong? Seems to me, that more often than not those who buy large trucks tend to use them for commercial use and not as a fashion statement (there are exceptions of course and I remember nearly everybody I knew in Texas drove a full size Dodge Ram, Ford F-150 or full size Chevy every day 2 miles from the barracks to the exercise area...)

marcus

I guess a lot of the criticism for big vehicles like this really comes from the fact that in the US you see them all over the city. Everyone knows the average car size here is bigger than anywhere else and I'm not talking about farmers lugging concrete. I'm talking about millions of commuters, one to an SUV each sitting there almost stationary in the peak-hour traffic. For lowering GHGs I say thank you to high gas prices because not many of these people would ever change otherwise. Perhaps farmers with real needs could get special help or perhaps the current increases MPG will be enough. I have no complaints with those in real need.

Peter

Sebastian,
You are not right. You must know that EU regulations say all offered diesel fuel in EU must be B5 and soon will be B10 or B12. So my Mondeo TDCi runs on B5 mixture. I tested B30 diesel fuesl offered here in Czech Rep. and no problems. Consumption a little bit higher. All new technologies bring some particular problems, we are here to solve them. Peter, Czech Republic.

Joseph Willemssen

In short I think few people buy these trucks to "be seen in them" although I'm sure there are a few.

I think you have it completely backwards. Every time one of these vehicles gets mentioned, it's inevitable that someone will come on and start talking about how they "need" it and how people are being bigoted against large vehicles.

Of course some people need such vehicles. But "need" is a pretty subjective term. Do you "need" your trailer? It reminds me of the little circular tale: "Why'd ya buy the truck, Carl? - To tow ma trailer. - Why'd ya get the trailer, Carl? - So I'd have somethin' ta tow with my new truck."

I'd be very curious to see some actual demographic data on buyers of the bigger vehicles. I personally see quite a few in my urban neighborhood. I certainly hear them every time they drive by (they sound like a school bus). And my neighbors using them certainly don't need them by any stretch of the imagination.

Sid Hoffman

Farmers in Denmark and Japan? Huh? The US does a thousand times as much farming as Denmark and Japan, why would you want to compare our farming to theirs in the first place?

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