Umn, I was explaining that your usual style of post (not found in this string yet) was remenicent of Kaczynski's writings. And also that if/when you do that, I will be there to call attention to it and hopefully shame you publicly. That seems to get you back on an even keel, especially when site moderators do it (like Mike).

So, with that behind us, do you have any position on the Prius not being E85 compliant?

anne,

Appreciate the detail on the Prius II. The more people understand how it works, the better mileage we can squeeze out of it.

Sorry I wasn’t clear. My comments were regarding the PHEV kit implementations.

I run my bycicle at 100.000 mpg, just push the peddles. And when I want ride on a car with a family I get in Odyssey and don't care about mpgs

Answer to the question about batteries, I believe they use A123 system's M1 cells to build their batttery pack.

I'm so excited about the Plug-In Hybrid Technology. Less trips to the gas station. And the new fact that I'm driving a Prius Hybrid these days. I'm so happy. My record mpg was 74 miles per gallon. it was much easier for me to average 58 and 59 miles per gallon. Now I'm averaging just over 50 miles per gallon, and thats without effort. If I try, I can get the higher mpg's. lately I've been lazy. I love this car though. I wish I could plug it in. I will add the plug in kit this year or next. I will also add the solar panel system to it. just for fun, and a few extra miles. If you haven't driven a Prius yet, Please drive one, it's the best, most amazing driving experience I've ever had. that's why I bought one. Life is good.

Dave,
Before you go spend $10,000 to convert your Prius, you might want to read the May 2007 Popular Mechanics issue which has a great article about PHEVs. They show a regular Prius having a cost of $1.39 for a 30 mile trip or $.046 per mile. The cost for a 200 mile trip is $9.27 or $.046 per mile. The PHEV Prius conversion of $10,000 has a cost of $1.01 or $.034 per mile for a 30 mile trip and $8.86 or $.044 per mile for a 200 mile trip. That translates to a whopping $.41 savings over the non-PHEV Prius. I can't say I'm terribly impressed especially seeing how the conversion adds $10,000 to the cost of the car. Plus, you also have to take into account the cost added to your electric bill for plugging it in. Even the vaunted Chevy Volt came off only marginally better. It had a cost of $.63 or $.21 per mile savings for a 30 mile trip and $9.00 or $.45 per mile for a 200 mile trip! So the $30,000 Volt will save you $.01 per mile over the Prius for a 200 mile trip. WOW! I'm excited now...
I think we are going to have to face it, Toyota has done quite a job in making the current Prius at an affordable price. The Tesla Roadster (all electric) had the best savings at $.22 per mile. Of course, that's only good if you can afford the $98,000 price tag!
Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about the new technology and hope it succeeds. I would love for my Prius to be all electric. However, the reality is that the technology is expensive and not much of a savings over the current product. If, on the other hand you have enough money to convert yours AND mine, I would be happy to do so.

This is an interesting site! Would be interested in everyones comments about this vehicle.

http://www.myersmotors.com/

Manufactured By: Myers Motors, LLC 180 South Avenue Tallmadge, OH 44278

I talked to Brad 330-760-2768 of Myers Motor in Tallmadge.

Here is some additional info:

The car is rated at 30miles per charge. He has used ones for sale with 3000 to 4000 miles on them for $21,000.

The car has 7, 12 volt deep cycle Marine batteries in it with later options for Lithium. They have a car with Lithium batteries that was driven 100miles on one charge. But Lithium batteries are still pretty expensive at this time. The car only has heat, no air conditioning. And as far as winter goes, the car weighs enough to go pretty good in the snow, even though it’s a rear wheel drive. Brad did say that if there is more than 4ft of snow, it would be advised not to drive it. What can happen is snow gets on the belt and causes the belt to slip. The car is actually considered and motor cycle. So motorcycle plates will be needed. But you need only have a driver’s license to take the test since it’s mostly a car. The car can go 75miles per hour and does great on the high way. I figured I drive 17.55 miles to work daily, add the return trip and I would have driven 35.1 miles total. Brad stated if you plug in at work and give your boss .35 cents daily you would have paid for the daily charge so it would not impact your Employers electric bill.