Concept, Shmecept. Ford, Ship the beeyach!

Patrick:
50 ton semy with 700hp engine manage to highway speed just fine. But I agree with you, then 30 hp genset is unrealistic. Minimal requirement, I believe, is 60hp sustained output with at least 30 sec 120hp combined battery/engine output. Other vice no one will buy it.

I totally agree with you that total frontal area of modern cars is overlooked. I really do not understand why small car like Yaris is designed to accommodate even basketball player. He will not buy this car anyway.

BTW, I bumped recently in interesting data: the lowest drag coefficient had GM EV1 – 0.19. From modern cars on the road the slickest is Honda Insight with 0.25. Surprisingly, the second one is Toyota Prius with 0.26.

Mahoni. . . You must have misread me somehow, I didn't ask for 0-100 in 20 second. I said it needs *more* acceleration. My view is that it's a sports car, it's a concept car, it's supposed to be fast, it's not supposed to be merely what "most people could live with". The PML Mini QED is out-accelerating it easily. If PML can do that, why can't Citroen? I've also read that more powerful electric motors also tend to be more efficient, so there's really nothing to be gained from de-tuning it.

dt. . . You wrote, "All it's intended to do is attract attention to what a diesel hybrid can do for performance and fuel consumption." That's what makes it so unimpressive. Other companies have demonstrated cars with better performance and much better efficiency. If this is the best Citroen can do, what is holding them back?

10 HP Chevy Diesel Car http://utterpower.com/10hp_chevy.htm
50 mph on the flat, 60 mph downhills...

There are developments in DME in China today:
We see great potential for DME as a clean alternative fuel . The present diesel oil is a major source of air pollution from diesel engine of trucks and busses in large city like Tokyo. The potential market of diesel oil substitute is larger than LPG. DME is one of ideal fuel for diesel engine. DME vehicles were demonstratively manufactured in Japan, China and Korea and their driving test already started. Practical durability fleet test of a DME truck is under going in Japan.

We are pleased to organise a conference on China taking the lead in the DME market in production from coal and Japan and Korea activities.

If you would like to know more on COAL to Syngas to DME developments, join us at upcoming North Asia DME / Methanol conference in Beijing, 27-28 June 2007, St Regis Hotel. The conference covers key areas which include:

DME productivity can be much higher especially if
country energy policies makes an effort comparable to
that invested in increasing supply.
By:
National Development Reform Commission NDRC
Ministry of Energy for Mongolia

Production of DME/ Methanol through biomass
gasification could potentially be commercialized
By:
Shandong University completed Pilot plant in Jinan and
will be sharing their experience.

Advances in conversion technologies are readily
available and offer exciting potential of DME as a
chemical feedstock
By: Kogas, Lurgi and Haldor Topsoe

Available project finance supports the investments
that DME/ Methanol can play a large energy supply role
By: International Finance Corporation

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