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Lawsuit Over California Greenhouse Gas Auto Emissions Standards Will Go to Trial
26 September 2006
San Jose Mercury News. US District Judge Anthony Ishii ruled on Monday that automakers can continue their lawsuit seeking to block California’s law regulating greenhouse gas emission standards for new vehicles beginning in 2009. The case will go to trial 30 January 2007.
The Office of the California State Attorney General had earlier requested a ruling from the judge. (Earlier post.)
The California regulations—which have been adopted by 10 other states—establish cuts in greenhouse gas emissions from light duty vehicles. Automakers challenged the law, claiming that the regulation essentially sets new fuel-economy standards, which legally is the sole purview of the federal government.
Automakers claimed that the resulting higher fuel economy standards required to meet the reductions in greenhouse gas emissions cannot be reasonably adopted in the US and would sharply boost vehicle costs. California argued that the standards can be met using new technology and alternative fuels.
Judge Ishii is allowing the automakers to continue with that fuel-economy standards argument, as well as an argument that the regulations undermine the federal government’s ability to conduct a uniform foreign policy. He prohibited arguments that the law would impeded interstate commerce or business competition.
September 26, 2006 in Climate Change, Emissions, Policy | Permalink | Comments (41) | TrackBack (0)
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Posted by: Harvey D. | September 26, 2006 at 06:34 PM
lol - Harvey D., do you even live on this planet? Where the hell did you come up with that nonsense?
I hope the college attended gives refunds, because you definately didn't get your money's worth......
Posted by: jake | September 26, 2006 at 09:47 PM
"I hope the college [INSERT MISSING WORD HERE] attended gives refunds, because you definately [SIC]..."
Posted by: funny | September 27, 2006 at 07:03 AM
It's actually pretty simple.
Take emissions, fuel economy, and safety. Pick two. Regulating emissions reduces fuel economy. Want proof?
Take the Honda Insight.
The manual transmission version is equipped with lean burn and gets 66 mpg highway and an epa emissions score of 3/10.
The CVT version does not have lean burn and gets 56 mpg highway and an epa emissions score of 9/10.
Don't believe me? look it up for yourself at www.fueleconomy.gov
Weight:
The new Dodge Challenger, even though equipped with an all-aluminum engine, disc brakes, carbon fiber hood, etc, weighs 700 pounds more than the 1979 Challenger with it's all-steel body, cast iron engine, and drum brakes. The reason? Safety regulations are outpacing the advance of material and structure technology.
Automakers are doing the best they can to improve all three, but more often than not, fuel economy loses out. There is no simple solution to this conundrum.
Posted by: Yes I Am a Rocket Scientist | September 27, 2006 at 09:06 AM
Edit to above:
"1979 Challenger" should read "1970 Challenger"
blame my typing skills :-)
Posted by: Yes I Am a Rocket Scientist | September 27, 2006 at 09:07 AM
To Funny:
I apologize, English is not my original language. In the future, I will attempt to write it the way the Americans do instead of the way I learned it.
It makes sense, after all - they have already seized everything else, why not language, too?
Posted by: jake | September 27, 2006 at 09:13 AM
Safety is not the only reason. Comfort and convenience adds nearly as much weight. The weight of a 300W 6 speaker w/ 8" subwoofer & 12 CD changer audio system found in most new cars around $20,000 to $30,000 equals the weight of all the airbags, ECU & sensors for the airbags, and the ABS system (mainly due to the weight of the speakers and none of the other components in the audio system).
Typical power heated leather seat in a $30,000 vehicle weighs 130lbs. Basic 6 way adjustable (non power, non heated) cloth seat weighs 40lbs. That 90lb difference covers the weight of both bumpers & bumper shocks. If you have two of these seats the extra 90lbs of the second seat easily covers excess bracing of the chassis for rigidity (comparing rigidity of a car 10years old a brand new one).
The weight of a typical electrical wiring system for the entire car (engine control, comfort, lights, safety, telematics, etc) can be greater than 100lbs.
Posted by: Patrick | September 27, 2006 at 10:06 AM
Patrick,
I hadn't thought of that. That's probably very true. I still find it odd that my 1979 V8 (all iron) 5-seat Cutlass Coupe weighs less than 300 lbs more than a new Corvette though. Even though a lot of that could be comfort/luxury items. . .still seems like that couldn't account for all of it. . .
Posted by: Yes I Am a Rocket Scientist | September 27, 2006 at 11:56 AM
In 1993, Honda produced the Civic VX, which got 51mpg -- no hybrid, no cylinder deactivation, no engine shutoff at stoplights. Just a lightweight, efficient car.
Peter,
I believe that the VX model used the same lean-burn technology as the Insight. (5-wire wide-band O2 sensor and lean of stoich operation). There's no way in heck that car could meet current emissions standards, most likely due to high NOX emissions from the lean burn strategy. Sadly, we can't have our cake and eat it too. . .
Posted by: Yes I Am a Rocket Scientist | September 27, 2006 at 12:02 PM
Low sulfur gasoline could have every engine run in lean burn mode at highway cruise given that the catalysts better at taking care of high levels of NOx work well when sulfur in the fuel is mitigated.
I'm not saying comfort items are the only things adding weight just that they are adding as much or in some cases more weight. NVH (noise/vibration/harshness) deadening & mitigation can account for 200-300lbs of weight in $40,000+ luxury vehicles.
If you took an Acura TSX and stripped it down to the specs of an early 90s vehicle but kept the modern drivetrain you'd see gas mileage go up, acceleration go up, and handling go up because you could probably remove 250-300lbs of dead weight from the vehicle. Then you could even go a step further and downsize the 2.4L i-VTEC for a 2.0L i-VTEC for even further savings or you could give more relaxed gear ratios for the same acceleration (with the aformentioned weight reduction) with the 2.4L and achieve better highway mileage.
Posted by: Patrick | September 27, 2006 at 12:15 PM
Here's an idea: http://www.drive55.org/ Save 20% or more!
Posted by: nemo | September 27, 2006 at 11:55 PM
Driving at 55mph would be unsafe to do on any road (even in the right most lane) with a speed limit of 70mph or more. With our ever burdgeoning populations expect to face an exponential increase in road rage incidences if you choose to drive slower than the posted limit in heavy, but flowing traffic and remember that everyone will be timing their lane changes based on traffic flowing at the same speed as them...not traffic a good 20% slower.
Posted by: Patrick | September 28, 2006 at 08:23 AM
Driving at 55mph would be unsafe to do on any road (even in the right most lane) with a speed limit of 70mph or more.
What percentage of annual VMTs in the US are on road segments with a speed limit exceeding 55 mph?
Posted by: jw | September 28, 2006 at 08:36 AM
Andy
"After the war the engine [Wright r-3350 radial] became a favourite of large aircraft of all designs, most notably the Lockheed Constellation and Douglas DC-7.
Following the war, in order to better serve the civilian market, the Turbo-Compound system was developed in order to deliver better "gas milage". In these versions of the engine, three separate power recovery turbines were attached to the exhaust piping of each group of 6 cylinders, using the power not to deliver additional boost as in a normal turbocharger, but geared directly to the engine crankshaft by fluid drives in order to deliver more power. This recovered about 20% of the heat of the exhaust......"
Not much new in this world is there?
Posted by: Ladson | September 30, 2006 at 08:48 PM
jw:
In California large trucks are restricted to 55 mph on Freeways so one can drive in the right lanes safely because the drivers are better conditioned to accept the difference in speed. I think it's a good law and should be considered for the other states where many trucks are a bunch of speeding tanks just waiting to kill people.
Posted by: Ladson | October 01, 2006 at 10:19 AM
I want to get latest updates on GHG emissions
Posted by: usjoshi | March 31, 2008 at 12:28 AM
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