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Ebox
The eBox.

AC Propulsion, the maker of the tzero electric sports car, has delivered its first eBox electric vehicle to actor Tom Hanks.

The eBox, a converted Toyota Scion xB, made its public debut in December 2006 and uses an AC Propulsion drive system combined with a 35 kWh li-ion battery pack to support an all-electric range of approximately 150 miles with a top speed of 90 mph and 0-60 acceleration of about 7 seconds. The eBox is also Vehicle-to-Grid (V2G) capable.

The drive system uses an AC induction motor that produces 120 kW of peak power, 50 kW continuous, with 220 Nm (162 lb-ft) of torque. The system supports regenerative braking.

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A 35 kWh li-ion battery pack from AC Propulsion.

AC Propulsion built the 335 V nominal li-ion battery pack from 5,088 small cells. An on-board charger is rated from 1 to 20 kW with 100 to 250V input, and has a bi-directional grid interface. A fast full recharge takes 2 hours, a normal recharge takes 5 hours.

The eBox costs approximately $70,000—the base price of the Scion xB (around $15,000) plus the $55,000 conversion cost.

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Comments

Fred Sands

I've driven one lately...

Nice car with great acceleration, but with a not-so-friendly $75K price tag!!! Hanks can easily buy 1000 of them and give them away as a charitable gesture to needy people who want to drive BEVs but cannot afford this kind of $$$.

FS

James

Seems good apart from the range and the price.

Neil

The range shouldn't be much of a problem considering that you start every morning with a "full tank". I'm lucky if my car starts out the day with a quarter of a tank.

Kumar Barve

James:

I agree that the price is awful, but what's wrong with the range? In my two car household, I'd love to have such a vehicle, provided, again, that the price is reasonable. I suspect the vast majority of the driving public would feel the same. I base this on what I have heard anecdotally.

John

Range would be fine with me.... the price....
sorry. Hey Tom, I sure would like one... :)

andrichrose

funny they could not find anything a little more aerodynamic , looks a little like a housebrick , seriously though 75k is a lot of money for this type of car , in mass prodution the price should come down dramaticaly , an electric car should be a lot cheapear than a modern ICE car to manufacture just think of all the things you get to throw away
1. injection system, costly and always going wrong
2. exhuast system , need a new one every few years
3. ICE motor , 200kilos of cast iron and alloys , costly and prone to failure
4. gearbox , another chunky piece of metal 75to 100 kilos
5. clutch and housing , cant remember how many I have changed in 25 years of driving
6. fuel tank and pumps
7. starter motor , very heavy in a diesel car
8. alternater , very expensive to replace

the list goes on , ok you need a whole bundle of electronics , for an electric car but these are so much more reliable than in an ICE beacause you dont have to interface to the mecanical parts of the ICE motor ,
the only real bugbear is that battery , but maybe the chinese will help us with that one , I am sure that once the ball starts rolling these huge prices will come down , but good on Tom Hanks he´s put his money where his mouth is , we need a few more politicans to take his lead !

Lee

The price is too high! Well what do we expect from a teeny company taking on this challenge by itself? What would happen to the price of vehicles like this if they were produced and promoted by one of the multinational auto manufacturers, or any giant multinational corporation? What would happen to the price of vehicles like this if a fraction of the tax breaks granted giant oil corporations were applied to a pipsqueak like AC propulsion?

Say the eBox cost $50,000, per unit. For 50 grand a pop, you could build 20 of these cars for one million dollars. For $200 million you could build 4000 of these cars. What do you think would happen to the $50,000 price of this car, if 4000 of them were built? Now, imagine that 4000 of these vehicles were rolling off the assembly line each and every day. 4000 eBoxs times 365 equals 1,460,000 vehicles per year. Does anyone think that, if sold in these volumes, the eBox would still cost $50,000 per unit?

$200 million per day is a conservative estimate of the current costs of funding one day's worth of the Iraqi liberation.

It's not about cost, it's about priorities.

cs1992

The range and charge times are fine with me. My gas gauge reaches the half-way point at about 150 miles. This equates to about 5.5 days of driving for me. I have driven more than 150 miles in one day no more than 2 times the past year.

Thse celebrities need to get a clue. Instead of wasting energy in lambasting the government and the war in Iraq, they could educate the public on the possibilites of BEVs. Heck, with all the funding that Hanks, Clooney, Cruise and company could generate, why don't they start an electric car company?

Bob

150 miles is just fine with me as well.
I cant think of the last time I went that far in a day.

But the cost is prohibative.

I figure the batteries are the most expensive component. So how cheap can they be purchased for in bulk? Is there chart with volume -vs- cost?

Maybe someone can strike a deal with one of the big three since they are hurting for the car shells.

I think the hollywood crowd could get together and super fund it but how cheap can it be made?


James

Sure the range is fine for everyday driving but in a few weeks I'm off to see my mate in London. That's over 150 miles away and when I'm driving that much I don't want a two to five hour break in my journey for recharging.
And I don't want to pay that much money for a car that can't do relativly short road trip.

Erick

For the occasional long trip you can tow the optional genset, making it a hybrid of sorts. The cost is high, but just like anything that's built in very small numbers by hand, that cost is sure to drop if the same were to be built in larger numbers by a mostly automated assembly line.

James

Where does it say anything about a genset?

Michael McMillan

I know it looks like a flying brick, but I know someone who has one. He says that he gets 30 miles per gallon driving sporty.

The aerodynamics of the overall shape sort of suck, but the doors seal flush with a little flap so that there is negligible disruption in airflow. The vehicle rides very close to the ground minimizing airflow under the car.

The total vehicle weight is low, minimizing rolling resistance, especially when combined with low rolling resistance tires.

So it is not as bad as it seams. The low total weight greatly increase acceleration and regenerative deceleration.

Harvey D.

Where and when will a 5-passenger BEV sedan, with 200+ miles range, be mass produced for $25 000 +/- $5 000?

In C.... or K.... in 2009/11?

t

Li-on batteries are already a mass produced item for the laptop and electronic goods market. Therefore, it is not a given that economies of scale will have much of an impact on the cost of converting vehicles to electricity;nor is it a given that they will have sufficient longevity to ever be economical for us mere mortals. We are still clearly in the toys for the rich category.

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