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2014 Accord PHEV. Click to enlarge.

Although Honda’s presence at the Los Angeles Auto Show was dominated by the debut of the 2013 Civic, the company also announced that the 2014 Accord Plug-In Hybrid, featuring Honda’s new two-motor system (earlier post) earned an EPA-certified 115 MPGe rating and will go on sale in New York and California on 15 January with an MSRP of $39,780.

Separately, the Accord Hybrid, also featuring Honda’s new two-motor hybrid system, will launch nationwide next summer with anticipated fuel economy ratings of 49/45/47 city/hwy/combined (4.8/5.2/5.0 l/100km respectively). The revised 2013 Honda Crosstour and 2013 Honda CR-Z also made their auto-show debuts.

With its EPA rating of 115 MPGe, the Accord Plug-In Hybrid surpasses plug-in-class competitors including the Ford C-Max Energi (100 MPGe), Chevy Volt (98 MPGe), and Prius Plug-in (95 MPGe). The 2014 Accord Plug-in has been rated by the EPA with a maximum all-electric EV mode range of 13 miles (21 km) (Honda had earlier projected 10 to 15 miles), and a fuel-economy rating of 47/46/46 mpg city/hwy/combined (5.0/5.1/5.1 l/100km respectively).

The 2014 Accord Plug-in Hybrid is powered by Honda’s first two-motor hybrid system, and uses a new Earth Dreams i-VTEC 2.0-liter 4-cylinder Atkinson-cycle gasoline engine producing 137 hp (102 kW) at 6200 rpm, teamed with a 124 kW electric motor. Electric driving is supported by a 6.7 kWh lithium-ion battery pack, and total system output is 196 hp (146 kW).

The Accord Plug-in is also the first production car in America to meet the more stringent new LEV3/SULEV20 emissions standard (earlier post), and it will also qualify for single-occupant carpool-lane access in California.

The new California LEV III standards are designed to force the reduction of fleet average emissions of new passenger cars (PCs), light-duty trucks (LDTs) and medium-duty passenger vehicles (MDPVs) to super ultra-low-emission vehicle (SULEV) levels by 2025. (This corresponds to US EPA Tier 2 Bin 2.)

The California Air Resources Board proposed proposed three additional light-duty vehicle emission standards (ULEV70, ULEV50, and SULEV20) to which manufacturers may certify their vehicles when meeting the fleet average emission requirement. The numerical part of the standard category, such as 20 in SULEV20, refers to the emission standard, in thousandths of a gram per mile. I.e., SULEV20 represents NMOG+NOx emission standards of 0.020 g/mi.

Unlike the unique styling of the Accord Plug-In, the Accord Hybrid will share styling much closer the conventional Accord Sedan. More details on the Accord Hybrid will be released closer to launch.

Comments

Roger Pham

@Kit P,
The $15k premium will allow you to save that much, and even more, in combined gasoline cost and repair/maintenance cost over the life of the car. That's why all other extra benefits of owning a PHEV will be free.

Let's say you engine broke down in the middle of a very busy freeway. In a ICEV, it would be very inconvenient and dangerous situation. In a HEV and PHEV, no sweat. The back-up electric power plant will allow you to drive to a gas station where you can get help.

Or, let's say that you take a out-of-town car trip and your engine broke down in the middle of nowhere, and your cell phone got no signal...You would be at the mercy of the weather elements and criminals passing by...Well, in a PHEV with a fully-charged battery pack, you'll have 40 miles range in the Volt, or 20-mile range in the C-Max Energi to get to a gas station or to get to town to get help. It could make a difference between life-and-death situation.

Later with a V2G or plug-out capability, a PHEV will be a must-have for most people who enjoy out-door activities like camping, hunting, etc...
If your house have sensitive electronic equipments that you want to protect, then you can just plug in your PHEV, and with the V2G feature, your house can be protected from temporary brown-out or power surges...No need for expensive UPS for every computers.

If there will ever be another future interruption of the petroleum supply line, guest who will get the last laughs?
Yup, you got it right, PHEV and BEV owners!

Kit P

@Roger

You have completed failed to show that a PHEV will save money. Why do you insist on repeating made up claims.

Furthermore I have never had an ICE fail me. The rare times that I have needed a tow it is because of an electrical component failure. In which case, running on batteries will not work.

“life-and-death situation ”

Our trunk is well supplied with water in the summer and blankets in the winter.

“Later with a V2G or plug-out capability ”

I will think about it when 'later' arrives.

“interruption of the petroleum supply ”

I think Roger and his family will die. Where do you think your food will come from?

Roger if you want an expensive toy go buy it, you do not have to justify it to anyone. Tell us how it turns out. What I have learned about Roger is that he likes to go out and buy expensive toys every couple of year. If you want a medal for citizenship because you bought a HEV instead of a Hummer you are talking to the wrong old guy. You just won the dumb and dumber contest.

Bernard

I don't understand why people here like to compare new high-tech cars with old clapped-out jalopies.
There's a market for both, and the two markets don't intersect. Most people just don't have the skill, knowledge, patience, or spare time to keep an old car running, so they buy a new car instead.
That's where your used cars come from, by the way.

Maintenance on a hybrid isn't any cheaper. Engine failures are mostly a thing of the past; transmissions last for the life of a car with no maintenance.

Suspension and steering will cost more: hybrids are by definition heavier than comparable non-hybrid cars, so parts will be more stressed. Brake life depends on what component quality. Some cars models need brake jobs every year, some will go five years. It has nothing to do with regen.

SJC

When people use words like "always, never, everything, nothing" you can usually find a logical fallacy. If the car is a PHEV or an EV there are enough batteries to at least have something to do with regenerative braking.

Kit P

@Bernard

Let me help you what you do not understand. When you say “new high-tech cars ” you sound like a car salesman trying sell me something I do not need. Try looking at it from a point of view of function.

The function that can be accomplished by charging battery with power from the grid is short trips. This function can also be accomplished by my 89 Ranger. Furthermore no spare time is spent keeping it running because the engine in a modern marvel. It just keeps running. Not only that, washing it would be a waste of time.

Keep in mind that my logic is in the context of those who think a $40k car is a good way to save money and the planet. If you want to save money and the planet you would drive less.

Roger Pham

@Kit P,
Here's how a PHEV will save money for an average motorist, but NOT FOR YOU, since you drive too little.

Let's use the Ford C-Max Energi at $29k list price after tax incentive. After 200,000 miles at 2/3 on electricity and 1/3 gasoline, at $0.11/kWh electricity rate, the electricity bill will be around $4,800-5000, considering losses during charging, using 3.3 miles/kWh per EPA rating of 100 mpgge on electricity. The gasoline bill will be for 66,000 miles at 47mpg=1404 gallons x $3.5/gal= $4914. Total fuel and electricity cost will be around $10,000.

A comparable ICEV at 25 mpg when driven to 200,000 miles will cost %28,000 of gasoline. A typical ICEV comparable to the C-Max Energy would have a list price of $22,000. However, not many ICEV would make it to 200,000 miles, due to major failures in the engine, or transmission, or emission control system, A/C compressor, etc. that usually force the owner to salvage the vehicle at around 150,000 miles, or pay thousands of dollars to keep the vehicle running past 200,000 miles. So, a typical motorist would run his/her car to 150,000 miles, and buy a new car. So, to calculate an ICEV's lifespan to 200,000 miles without big-ticket repair items would means having to buy 1.33 ICEV cars at $22,000 =~$29,000.

Note carefully that after 66,000 miles on gasoline during the 200,000 mile lifespan of the PHEV, the engine is still like-new. Oil changed, but that's about it, not even the spark plugs need changing, and ready for another 133,000 miles more! The hermetically-sealed A/C compressor will still run like new, and does not even need freon charge, and ditto for the electric-powered water pump. The brakes are practically brand-new, and have hardly any wear on them!

Voila, you can see that the higher durability of a PHEV means that the owners actually are not paying any more money to purchase the car, since it will either last for many more thousand miles, or will have higher resale value. The owner will then pocket the $18,000 saving in energy cost of owning a PHEV, minus ~$3,000 cost to replace the battery pack after 66,000 miles of running on electricity alone = $15,000 NET SAVING.

KP, please Kindly KeeP this $15,000 NET SAVING in mind about the net saving of owning a PHEV, so that you don't have to repeatedly ask me to redo the calculation for you again and again!
Again, please note that this juicy saving DOES NOT APPLY to YOU, so that you don't have to keep repeating how little you drive. Too bad, so sad, that you can't take advantage of the latest advancement in automotive technology. :(

Roger Pham

Kit P stated:
>>>"“interruption of the petroleum supply ”

I think Roger and his family will die. Where do you think your food will come from?

Under the Obama's administration, the USA is producing more and more petroleum, and is importing much less. We are far less vulnerable to petroleum disruption than a decade ago. Still, the tight world-wide supply and globalism means that US citizens will have to pay for petroleum based on world-wide market prices which depend largely on demand and supply. A reduction of even about 10% of world-wide supply of petroleum will means rapid price hike to $5-6 dollars/gallon. Farmers will still be able to get their diesel fuel for their farm equipments, while fertilizer will come from natural gas, which is plentiful for the foreseeable future, though the higher diesel prices will means higher prices for food.

Future farming can depend on renewable-energy H2 both to run the equipments and to produce fertilizer. We won't really need petroleum to produce food once the H2 economy will be fully installed.

Of course, in due time, we all will die, I and everyone else. There ain't no escaping that! While we are alive, though, let's do something worthwhile for humanity, so that our souls will go to better places when we will depart this life!

SJC

I don't know about souls, but high oil prices in times of slow economies tells us a lot. We may have hit peak oil already, but the slow down masked it. A lot of the numbers include natural gas liquids, which is not the same as oil. A lot of numbers now include tar sands and biofuels.

The world is headed towards 100 million barrels per day demand with China, India and other counties. It remains to be seen if the world can produce 100 million barrels per day. There could be a bidding war like we have never seen. Stay tuned.

Engineer-Poet

Peak oil produced the slowdown; the financial bubble was popped by oil prices topping $140/bbl.

Kit P

"Peak oil produced the slowdown"

I love when people state a theory as a fact. And where did they hear this theory? At there local meeting of the tin hat society.

If the world was only so simple.

Engineer-Poet

Apparently, the Kit P troll is now denying that oil prices rose from the $25/bbl range around 2000 to the peak of over $140/bbl in 2008, and is also denying that Brent prices remain over $110/bbl despite the recession.

Oil prices are set by supply and demand.  Lower demand, high price... only possible if supply cannot be met at lower prices.  And that's what peak oil is, the inability of supply to keep up, so that it's more economical to meet needs in other ways.

Kit P

"Peak oil produced the slowdown"

Sometimes it is necessary to keep repeating the stupid things E-P says.

Of course he will then call me a troll for "now denying" something I did not say.

Engineer-Poet

I note your "point-and-sputter" tactics, which completely ignore the one thing you'd be doing if you actually believed the position you espouse:

Showing how my claim is wrong.

Kit P

“my claim ”

We now see that E-P now agrees that I am correct and what he stated as a fact is just a claim. Furthermore, E-P assumes that others have to prove his BS wrong. When a reasonable argument is presented, E-P just redefines the meaning or words. In this case 'peak oil' is not some tin hat society theory but really just what we normally refer to as supply and demand.

A systematic approach includes understanding the root cause of a problem. Energy and food are really cheap commodities as a result of modern industrial society production methods. As we demonstrated in WWII, there are effective methods for dealing with disruptions in the energy supply. Energy is not the root cause of our current economic problems.

Other factors which even the best economists do not agree on contributed to the recent economic mess.

Engineer-Poet
We now see that E-P now agrees that I am correct
Liar.  And paid troll, and fraud.
Furthermore, E-P assumes that others have to prove his BS wrong.
No, you have to support your claims.  Which you can't, because the world oil price runup was precipitated by a halt in the growth in world oil supplies starting around 2004.  The current slow growth has required a rough quintupling of prices from the year 2000 level of ~$20/bbl.  This can't continue, because the world economies can afford substitutions and efficiencies more than paying enough to make supplies keep growing.  When nobody's willing to pay what it takes to keep supply going up... peak oil.
In this case 'peak oil' is not some tin hat society theory but really just what we normally refer to as supply and demand.
Peak oil is when economics runs up against petroleum geology.
A systematic approach includes understanding the root cause of a problem.
I love the smell of irony in the morning.

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