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Loremo LS debuts at the Geneva Motor Show.

Malaysia’s Kosmo Motor Company has taken a 26% stake in Loremo AG, the developers of the Loremo LS, a 1.5 l/100km (157 mpg US) diesel passenger car. (Earlier post.) Loremo presented the car at the Geneva Motor Show in March, and is currently showing the vehicle at the Kuala Lumpur International Motor Show. Loremo expects to have the car on the road in 2009.

Kosmo Motor Company Sdn Bhd (Kosmo Motor) is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Kosmo Technology Industrial Berhad (Kosmo Tech).

We appreciate the engagement of Kosmo Motor by Loremo AG. It will be a fruitful cooperation for both sides. We win a competent and strong partner in the Southeast-Asian market and Kosmo Motor’s R&D benefits from the technology exchange.

—Gerhard Heilmaier, Loremo CEO

The Loremo LS ( Low Resistance Mobile Light and Simple) combines lightweight design (450 kg / 992 lb) with a two-cylinder 15 kW (20 hp) turbo-diesel engine to deliver speeds up to 160 km/h (100 mph).

The company is planning a more powerful version, the Loremo GT, with a 37 kW (50 hp) 3-cylinder engine. The GT offers fuel consumption of 2.7 l/100km (88 mpg US).

Comments

Lotfw

Wow they actually have a prototype

Rafael Seidl

The folks at Loremo had the brilliant (if obvious) insight that drastic improvements in fuel economy can only come from sharply reduced weight. Their concept ought to be especially attractive for families with (very) young children in emerging economies where fuel is very expensive relative to disposable income.

However, the lack of regular doors resulting from its chassis concept

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/02/157_mpg_lightwe.html

makes getting into and out of the vehicle rather awkward. This is especially true in the rain.

Patrick

Lightweight, with average suspension geometry and center of gravity compared to other vehicles, should make it quite a good performer on a twisty road with a decent set of tires.

fyi CO2

What would 4 XL American passengers (800 lbs) do to the mpg economy?

Tonychilling

What would 4 XL American passengers (800 lbs) do to the mpg economy?
1) Human beings in the rest of the world weight less.
2) Won't be sold in U.S. Because diesels don't sell and with 20hp, the acceleration must be the pits.

Rafael Seidl

Tony -

the 20hp engine is projected to deliver 0-60mph in 20 seconds which is indeed very poor performance. The larger 3-cylinder engine will get you there in a perfectly acceptable 9 seconds and still deliver 88 MPG.

You only need a lot of power to accelerate if you enjoy whiplash or, if your car weighs a lot. The Loremo comes in at aroud 1000 lbs, about 1/2-1/3 of comparable small cars.

Ash

I'm interested in the aceleration too.
If it can't do a 1/4mi in ~20 seconds, it's too slow to drive safely.

allen zheng

____One phrase: Crash safety. Use of carbon fiber, metal/non metal composites, airbags (of all types), and perhaps some NASCAR derived safety features (seats, harness, NASCAR cage, etc) may make this vehicle top rated in safety ratings. However, it may become fairly expensive ($60,-80,0000).
____One note; this car seems to have some of the specs of a certain vehicle that the Clinton administration tried to get Detroit to build in the 90's. It was dubbed the ... "FreedomCar":
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http://www.businessweek.com/autos/content/feb2006/bw20060221_455868.htm?chan=autos_hybrids+index+page_technology
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http://www.wirednews.com/wired/archive/10.08/fuelcellcars_pr.html
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Maybe they will try to revive it.

Andy Eppink

The only way out of this mess is combined cycling, waste heat recovery. Either BMW or Mercedes Benz, can't remember, is working on a Rankine (steam) bottoming cycle, and I'd think the Stirling cycle would work admirably as well. All this combined with hybrid battery power/energy density breakthru (much earier said than done), possibly ultracapacitors, lighter cars, good aerodynamics, full hybrid w solar, grid batt. charging assits, diesel Miller/Atkinson cycling etc., turbocompounding, camless, programmable valve trains, (for regenerative compressed air barking, Atkinson/Miller cycling, etc.) etc. - the list is endless - should eventually result in vehicles the oil Co.'s will pay you to drive.

Of course talk is cheep.

SJC

FreedomCar is a label that the present administration put on the PNGV program from the previous administration.

http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=3481

The Ford Prodigy got 70 mpg in 1999, but was shelved and relabeled FreedomCar.
FreedomCar is suppose to run on hydrogen some day real soon now.

Joseph Willemssen

Loremo expects to have the car on the road in 2009.

Let's hope they do it.

Wells

FreedomCar -- Oxymoron #1693

Any car, no matter how fueled, maintains the transportation monopoly cars currently hold upon travel in the United States. Maintain the monopoly with liberal use of oxymoron #1693 - "FreedomCar". When people believe they're free, they won't realize their abstract imprisonment.

Patrick

Seems to be a self imposed prison when people choose to take jobs far away from home or choose not to move closer to their place of work. I hear many people complain about their 1 hour commute (one way) but I'm the only guy who felt a 30% increase in rent was worth the time I'd save and the ability to walk/bike to work if I wanted to.

Rafael Seidl

Allen -

the Loremo actually features very strong tall beams on either side of the passenger compartment, running along the entire length of the chassis. These preclude the use of doors (a very big minus IMHO) but they do provide good safety in frontal, side impact and rear collisions. These beams are connected by several lateral beams, primarily the large trapezoidal one between the front and rear-facing rear seats (Janus configuration). Afaik, the material is aluminium. See this page (in German) for a picture and a link to an animation:

http://www.loremo.com/struktur.php

The small engine is mounted in the cavity of this central crossbeam. I'm not sure where the fuel tank is. The whole design is radically different from anything that came out of the FreedomCar project.

hampden wireless

Looks like a great car. There are so few people pursuing this approach to mpg, I would love to see this hit the market. It might prove some people wrong.

I dont care if it gets less mpg with 800lbs of humans in it. I spend 90% of the time in the car alone.

kjd

At 157 mpg I would love to be able to buy one. I really do not car if it is slow getting from 0 to 60. All the city streets around here are posted at 35 mph anyhow, so who cares.

Kyle Dansie

Tony Chilling

This car is a prime example of why sometimes the Government needs to use its power for the greater good of its citizens. (sorry libertarians)
No large corporation will build this car because:
*large R&D costs will lengthen ROI time,
*higher initial cost for new materials, and
*fighting over patents.
They would rather re-tool the technogies and material they have now.
It is really a technology STANDOFF.
(How many new engine blocks have introduced in the last ten years?)
They quietly just change color choices, styling, and advertising slogans!
Set the CAFE standard to 60mpg in 10 years.
Darn It! If the Japanese can just about do it now, The rest of the global corporations should be able to do it in 10 years!

Patrick

I don't think I've ever seen 4 XL americans in any one vehicle at the same time.

This vehicle could be quite a hot performer. Low weight, low polar moment of inertia (centrally located engine), 3 cylinder turbo motor could easily have its boost increased over stock for more performance. If it were to perform well in a crash test I'd love to pick one up for auto-X.

Richard

Let's seriously hope that they do come through with production. Maybe even an electric version. With that weight, even lead acid batteries would provide extended range. Diesel is fine because we could use biodeisel, but it still doesn't kill our addiction to oil.
I have never seen 4 XL men in a car. But then if that's the case, they should keep driving a car suitable for their weight, the rest of us don't need it.
Go get 'em!

Boz

Hey, here's an idea. Instead of waiting for the government/automakers/small industrial innovators to devise cars which get 60-100+ mpg, are safe, don't cost a fortune, and accelerate within tolerable parameters, why not just buy a motorcycle? Especially those who are not concerned with acceleration and rarely carry passengers and live in the sunny south and west, or even in the north for the more hardcore.

Even the big, low efficiency Harleys can manage around 35-40 mpg when ridden sensibly. I have an '83 Virago 500, my first bike, which gets around 50 mpg and it could probably get better if I tinkered with it or spent time learning its efficiency curve. Royal Enfields combine classic style with 70+ mpg and sub-$5000 prices. Perhaps an almost perfect bike is the Suzuki DL650 V-Strom. It makes 70 odd horsepower, so it'll accelerate faster than any car you might be able to afford on a budget, has a good fairing and an adventure touring stance for changing weather and road conditions, and if I'm not mistaken, it gets somewhere in the 45-50 mpg range. The V-twin in the DL650 is highly regarded among motorcycling press for its power, reliability, and versatility. All this for well under $7000. When I buy another bike, there is a good chance it will be a DL650. Singles offered by BMW, Buell and the Japanese brands easily get over 50 mpg. A Kawasaki Ninja 250 gets around 70 mpg. As long as you don't ride all crazy like, most any bike can offer rewarding mileage. For those with more money to spend in the name of economy(a bit of an oxymoron there), there are some new diesel and turbodiesel bikes being offered from small manufacturers which claim economy of 100+ mpg.

The side benefit of riding a motorcycle is that you actually get to experience a bit of the nature that you might be presuming to save.

Adrian Akau

I think that lightweight cars should have external airbags for the cars, not just for the people in the cars. They would be linked to an radar system that would calculate an impending crash and trigger the release.

We have to remember that NASA developed a similar method of deployed air bags to land on Mars because of its lack of gravity. In this case, the objective would be to help preserve the integrety of the vehicle as well as protect it occupants.

The system should help reduce insurance rates.

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paul kneisl

My 2001 BMW F650 FI gets 75 mpg @ 45 mph. 60 mpg at steady 65 mph.

t

Lightweight cars should have gun turrets to blow away any behomoth that gets in the way.

Ash

Boz

Motorcycles are high emissions, and are far from "safe".

But they are a cheap way to get better MPG, at the cost of higher insurance, less weather durability, less long-distance ride comfort, and far far inferior safety.

Even still, ver few exceed the MPG of a Honda Insight ;)

paul kneisl

My F650FI has a catalytic converter. Please tell me what hybrid gets 75 mpg under any conditions. At 6500cc it is pretty large and of course would get better mileage if reduced in displacement. My insurance costs are $300 a year and that includes comprehensive coverage. I have ridden this motorcycle 800 miles in a single day and 6800 miles in 24 days time. No problems. I have 32 years and 200,000 miles experience riding motorcycles. No accidents, no injuries.
If you are not riding a motorcycle you are part of the problem.

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