Proton to Install Hydrogen Fueling System in New York City Metro Area
16 October 2006
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| There are currently 62 operational and planned hydrogen stations in the US and Canada. Click to enlarge. Source: National Hydrogen Association. |
Proton Energy Systems, a subsidiary of Distributed Energy Systems Corp., will install a hydrogen-fueling system in the New York City metropolitan area—the city’s first such—as prime contractor to Shell Hydrogen.
The fueling system will use a Proton Exchange Membrane (PEM) electrolyzer capable of producing 12 kilograms of hydrogen per day. The electrolyzer is expected to represent in part the future of on-site hydrogen generation for fueling stations with a retail-centric focus.
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| Proton’s hydrogen fueling station. Click image to enlarge. | |
The installation of this system represents another opportunity for Proton to demonstrate the performance of its technology in harsher winter climates. By carefully monitoring this system, the companies will be able to compare the New York area installation’s performance against several similar Proton installations located in warmer and colder climates.
Proton is responsible for project design, equipment procurement, site preparation, and installation and commissioning. Air Products will be a major subcontractor on the project and supply the compression, storage and dispensing equipment.
12 Kg / day seems to be pretty small. All this hardware and we get 1/2 k per hour?
Posted by: gr | 16 October 2006 at 02:04 PM
It can fill the tanks of 2-4 hydrogen cars a day; this is far more capacity than demand for it.
Posted by: Yosef | 16 October 2006 at 04:09 PM
Right now they want top test the systems and see where things go wrong. Geneeraly speaking your likely to be seeing people use less then 4 kg per week so this should handle the needs of 10 or so cars wich is all that are likely to be running around there for the next few years abyway.
Posted by: wintermane | 16 October 2006 at 04:47 PM
Stop this hyrdogen scam
Posted by: max | 16 October 2006 at 09:25 PM
It is easy to recognise whats going on here. Eventhough it has been proven, over and over, that Electric Cars are WAAAAY more efficient than Hydrogen Cars the problem with Electric Cars is that you can Power them yourself by creating Electricity at home with Solar Panels and Wind Turbines. And see that is BAAAAAAD for big oil because they can't CHARGE you for it. So Shell jumps on the bandwagon and says PUSH hydrogen quick quick before people realise they can power their own vehicles. Hydrogen is a lot of bollocks but Big Oil will keep on pushing it - cos when the oil is up they'll s(h)ell the hydrogen. They can't SELL electricity so they will not back Electric Cars.
Posted by: Ruan Jurgens | 17 October 2006 at 02:41 AM
This hydrogen scam is going to fail massively.
It's just too absurd to push blindly like that and I suspect this is going to fail in a catastrophic way
Might even become 5th biggest mistake of American history. (1. Bush 2.Bush 3. Bush 4. Iraq 5. Hydrogen)
Posted by: max | 17 October 2006 at 07:42 AM
Looks like hydrogen/fuel cell technology gets a little bit emotional. Sure thing, compressed hydrogen is awful energy carrier and extremely inferior transportation fuel, and pushing for its deployment before technology has matured is waste of money. However, appearance of liquid hydrogen carrier, like for example methanol in direct fuel cells, could change picture dramatically. Considering huge advantages of, say, battery EV with fuel cell range extender (plug-in capable, of course), massive R&D of hydrogen/fuel cell technology should be continued.
Posted by: Andrey | 17 October 2006 at 08:29 AM
Sure thing Andrey, I understand where your heading - my point is just in the near future I would like to be able to power my own car, without having to go to to any fuel station where whatever fuel is on sale is artificially priced. And one thing is clear, the only way to power your own car is via Solar Panels and driving an Electric.
Posted by: Ruan | 17 October 2006 at 11:18 PM
12 kg of hydrogen is supposed to be equivalent to 12 gallons of gasoline - just for reference - that doesn't seem like a lot - unless you don't drive very far on any sort of regular basis. Hydrogen is a shady deal. It has a lot of green hype about it but the truth is it's made from reforming natural gas by and large. Each energy conversion has an associated efficiency loss, so if people are going to be using CNG for hydrogen, they should just use CNG directly 'cause it's more efficient than converting to hydrogen first.
Posted by: Erica | 18 October 2006 at 05:51 AM
I would like to see the utility bills for this New York City hydrogen installation. The utility bills should include electric, natural gas and water supply. In addition I would like to see the cost for any chemicals used to produce deionized water. It's about time that engineers with a good background in the three laws of chemical thermodynamics look at real life, not paper estimates made by the proponents of hydrogen powered cars.
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Posted by: Cheryl Ho | 23 May 2007 at 10:18 PM