There is a lively discussion about this over at biodieselnow.com...

http://www.biodieselnow.com/forums/thread/121999.aspx

The analysis of the companys claims by some of the forum members convinces me there is too much hype and sketchy science.

Are soybeans the only cultivated vegetative feedstock? If so then they are in for a hard time as the farmers will be soon planting mostly corn to feed the massive proliferation of ethanol plants being built and envisioned here in the US.

The claims they are making are entirely "too good to be true". This appears to be a well-planned scam just coming to climax. But it has certaily sucked in a lot of the MSM press. And Mike, too, apparently.

I suppose we'll know in a few days. It could be a case of a legitimate company with a marketing department that has gone completely out of control, but I don't think so. The misstatements are too consistent and hang together too well to be just hype.

It's not just that the idea of using soy beans as a pyrolysis feedstock makes no economic or ecological sense. We're not dealing with a company that is simply pursuing a bad idea. They're making claims that can't possibly be true. The yield they're claiming to get from a bushel of soy beans contains more energy than the original soybeans, yet they insist that the process is fueled entirely by pyrolysis gases. And they have still have a substantial yield of char? I don't think so! Yet they're claiming to have an operational unit!

I could be wrong, but I predict that these guys will be out of the country within a week. If the Mississippi state AG doesn't get to them first.

From what I gather this process basically converts lipids into liquid fuel (like thermal depolymerization). Hence the demo on soybeans (high lipid content). Show me some results on a real world, high volume waste, such as forestry waste or waste paper!

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DME is an LPG-like synthetic fuel can be produced through gasification of Biomass. The synthetic gas is then catalyzed to produce DME. A gas under normal pressure and temperature, DME can be compressed into a liquid and used as an alternative to diesel. Its low emissions make it relatively environmentally friendly. In fact, Shandong University completed Pilot plant in Jinan and will be sharing their experience at upcoming North Asia DME / Methanol conference in Beijing, 27-28 June 2007, St Regis Hotel. The conference covers key areas which include:

DME productivity can be much higher especially if
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Production of DME/ Methanol through biomass
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Shandong University completed Pilot plant in Jinan and
will be sharing their experience.

Advances in conversion technologies are readily
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Its actually a old process patented some 30 yeras ago and repatented several times during the last 15 yeras. The original inventor was Prof. Bayer from Germany. In Brasil they call the process CBT or LTC ( low temperature conversion) If you look at the costs equation the claims of the company are bogus. Today one ton of soy values 400 US$ and higher so if you produce 5 gallons from one bushel soy ( thats 27,2 kg) then only the raw material costs are alone 2.176 US$ per gallon. Now have a look at the C-H2-Balance and you find out that additional to the 1 bushel of soy they introduce huge quantities of charcoal or CO to make the balance work as well they are adding H2 in mentionable quantities. Looking up the original patents from some 30 years ago they used oil and protein as feed stocks added charcoal in activated form and talked about adding H2 to get a lower oxygen content in the resulting oil and a higher heating value for the non condensable gases. In the modern versions of the same process instead off sucking out most of the oxygen by vacuum they add N2 as a sealant against entrained air. If we add now the costs for the H2 and CO ( produced by a simple plasma with carbon electrodes in a water charged with soluble organics, the so called Magna gas or water gas etc., big hype some 10 years ago) then we are up in the costs at over 3 US$ per gallon, still have to count the overhead costs and transport, taxes etc. So nothing sounding like saving the world. There is no wonder full technology to save the world which is so far ahead of all other technologies. Its a technically nice variant of liquefaction of biomass thats all. There are hundreds of patents in this area with and without the presence of water and so called "proprietary catalysts" which most times turn out to be simple snake oil -peddler fantasies to get quickly hands on the big bucks. This one is solid but not very economic and for sure not patentable.
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