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Report: EC Backing Away from 130 g/km Limit on Vehicle CO2

Daily Telegraph. The European Commission is yielding to pressure from Berlin and German automakers and dropping the proposed new fleet limit of 130 g/km CO2 emissions by 2012 from its planned legislation.

The 130 g/km target out of the vehicle was itself an increase from the original 120 g/km limit.

Fresh drafts of the EU’s hotly-contested legislation have ditched the original ceiling of 130 grams of carbon-dioxide per kilometre by 2012 for the average fleet of each car company, which posed a serious threat to the German trio of Porsche, BMW, and Daimler—all relying on powerful models.

The new proposals opt instead for a series of categories that create higher CO2 allowances for heavier cars, according to a report in Germany’s Handelsblatt.

“It will still be ambitious, but within the realistic possibilities of manufacturers,” said Karl-Heinz Florenz, MEP, the climate spokesman for the German Christian Democrats.

The more flexible proposals, modelled on Japan’s system, may clear the way for Ford’s sale of Jaguar and Land Rover, which has run into delays as private equity bidders hesitate until it is clearer what the EU intends to propose.

Chris Davies, MEP, the Liberal-Democrat leader in Strasbourg and the author of the European Parliament’s own report on emissions, said it was still far from clear what the final plans would look like.

The European Parliament’s environment committee is due to vote on the matter in September.

Comments

DieselHybrid

What a shame! It would have been exciting to see the developments required to make uber-cars from Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin- not to mention BMW, Daimler, Audi, and others 130g/km compliant.

What do you think it would take to make our ubiquitous uber-SUVs (Hummers, Escalade, Navigator, Suburban, Yukon, Expedition, Sequoia, Titans, and all our over-sized pick-ups) 130g/km compliant?

Scatter

It is very sad indeed. Weak politicians caving to commercial self interest yet again. Now they've got the problem of setting the correct bandings which is always a nightmare.

And if they do it by weight alone it won't help the sports car manufacturers at all. The Ferrari F430 weighs about the same as a Ford Focus Estate but the Ferrari puts out 430g/km and the Ford puts out emissions around the 160g/km mark.

jack

Unfortunate back step, but I applaud the Europeans for using CO2 output as a criteria over fuel economy, since it more realistically equalizes gasoline with diesel and encourages alternative fuel sources, without things like the ridiculous CAFE loopholes for full-size E85 vehicles which may never get a drop of E85 in them.

fred

GM & Ford are both "German" automakers too. This is a bit deeper than just an EU thing. Hard to believe there is no pressure coming from this side of the pond and Japan/Korea/China as well. Smaller displacements and more turbo/supercharging may be the ticket.

Spangenberg

It should have been 81G/KM CO2 . Why ?

Because the prius2aboutequalsize Audi A2 1.2 did it with 81 G/KM in the Year 2000 already ( better than the 104 G Prius2 of today ) .

jack

A2 1.2 TDI
0.240 g/km NOx emissions
0.021 g/km Particulate emissions
0-60mph: 14.0 seconds

Toyota Prius
0.032 g/km NOx emissions
0.016 g/km Particulate emissions
0-60mph: 9.8 seconds

"Unfortunately, the cost of working with aluminium, particularly with small production runs, meant that the A2 was more expensive than its competitors. This may have contributed to the relatively slow sales in conjunction with the dearth of marketing from Audi."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A2

Was 130 g/km supposed to be an overall average for every manufacturer or a ceiling for every individual car/SUV?

It makes sense as an average but would put a lot of (fun) models out of business.

Would a yearly percentage (i.e 10% ?) reduction for all vehicles above a certain floor level (100 g/Km ?) make more sense?

mahonj

The beauty of a single limit across all cars is its simplicity and clarity.

Once you start introducing bands, you encourage people to move up the bands to hit their CO2 limit. Thus you might have a company making a car heavier to get it into a higher weight band - which is exactly what you are trying to avoid.
The trick is to figure out how to "band" it.

By weight is completely the wrong way.

- By internal volume - by some metric of head, leg and shoulder room + luggage volume ?

Some people do need Big cars - they do not need Heavy cars.

This would allow larger cars, but disallow sports cars, which would be sensible but a bit miserable.

Or you could additionally pay a tax to be in a certain CO2 band - say the excess number of gms of co2 * 200 Euros.
This would allow Porsche to stay in business but at a cost (which they could reduce over time).

Lad

Nothing happens fast in the auto business because it is by necessity a evolutionary process driven by the profit motive. The giant steps made in this industry are by small start up companies and/or by governments willing to underwrite "excessive regulatory requirements." All the large auto companies cry foul with each additional environmental requirement attempted; but you know, if we ignore all the crocodile tears and order it done, it might force the companies to spend money on the necessary R&D and not so much on Lawyers and PR.

cidi

I agree it this is a bit sad, perhaps a somewhat more gradual phase-in which won't ultimately stop at 130 g/km would be more realistic. The idea of a tax on bigger emitters is a good one. If that would also push a trend to EVs of one sort or another that would be excellent -- but then powerplant emissions would also need to be restricted. That said, the comparison of a Ford Focus to a Ferrari is a bit specious: low production garage queens may have terrible numbers but contribute basically nothing in the big picture. I see on the front page that Toyota sold 23150 Tundras in July 2007 -- in one month that's over 4.5 times Ferrari's annual production for all models. A phase-in for very low production marques would also be fair.

andrichrose

How did we all know that this was going to happen !
just shows how little concern the EU has for the health of its people,
they just chose wealth over health every time !

realarms

An opportunity missed...

I would have opted for the original 120 g/km as an fleet average, and producers of high-emissions cars would have to buy CO2 emissions rights (per vehicle) from producers of small / efficient cars.

That way, still everybody would be allowed to drive whatever he wants - but the pricing would be highly dependant on the CO2 emissions; ultimately, high- consumption cars (luxury/sports cars would need to be sold at a steep premium, if small cars like Smart, Aigo, C2, A2, Fox would not sell; when small cars would sell like crazy, big cars would get less expensive (and small cars more expensive).

Let the forces of the free market decide the "price" for making low emission cars; unfortunately, politicians can not repeat the same successful model of auctioning SO2 emissions rights as in the late 1980's... It simply was too successful getting rid of acid rain... (and, nowadays noone would believe that cleaning up SO2 would cost anywhere near 5000 USD/t as companies originally claimed - the prices dropped to somewhere around 80 USD/t...

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