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The i-Blue fuel cell electric vehicle.

Hyundai Motor Company introduced its new i-Blue Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle (FCEV) concept at the Frankfurt Motor Show. The i-Blue platform is tailored to incorporate Hyundai’s third-generation fuel cell technology, currently being developed at its Eco-Technology Research Institute in Mabuk, Korea.

Unlike its predecessors which were built on SUV platforms, the i-Blue features a new D segment 2+2 crossover utility vehicle (CUV) body type. The i-Blue is Hyunda’s first model designed from the ground up to use fuel cell technology, according to Dr. Hyun-Soon Lee, President of Research and Development.

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The i-Blue chassis. Click to enlarge.

The i-Blue is powered by a 100 kW electric motor and fuel cell stack. Fueled with compressed hydrogen (700 bar) stored in a 115-liter tank, i-Blue is capable of running more than 600 km (373 miles) per refueling and achieves a maximum speed of 165 km/h (103 mph).

The i-Blue’s fuel cell stack is housed underfloor, not in the engine compartment as in the second-generation Tucson FCEV. This gives the car with an ideal 50:50 weight distribution for optimal driving and handling dynamics. Furthermore, by moving the fuel stack underfloor, the engine compartment is less densely populated, providing better air flow and cooling.

HMC is participating in many fuel cell vehicle verification programs domestically and internationally, and is striving to reach the stage of mass production for fuel cell vehicles between 2012 and 2015.

In the United States, Hyundai has been a member of the California Fuel Cell Partnership (CaFCP) since 2000. The CaFCP is a collaboration of 31 member organizations, including auto manufacturers, energy providers, government agencies and fuel cell technology companies, that work together to promote the commercialization of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Hyundai’s first-generation Santa Fe and second-generation Tucson FCEVs have both been tested at the Partnership’s facility in Sacramento, Calif.

In 2004, Hyundai partnered with Chevron Corp. and UTC Power to initiate a 32-vehicle fleet testing program. Hyundai is currently operating fleets at Hyundai America Technical Center in Chino, Calif.; California Air Resources Board in Sacramento, Calif.; AC Transit in Oakland, Calif.; Southern California Edison in Rosemead, Calif.; and the US Army TACOM facility in Warren, Mich.

Comments

K

I notice they are talking about 2012 - 2015 for serious FC production. Less than a year ago Honda was forecasting 2018. GM is, I believe, been talking about FCs about 2014.

Admittedly such statements are not all exactly comparable. They are certainly not promises. Even so, it looks like FC progress is real.

Now, about that hydrogen infrastructure!

Lucas

Good luck to them.

I remain convinced that personal transport via fuel cells powered by hydrogen is still a long way down a dead end road.

Rick

The only way a FC vehicle makes sense to me is with a large plug in battery pack. The fc would be a range extender - only used on longer drives.

Ben

Lucas,

That dead end feeling is probably because of the lack of signifigant existing infrastructure or maybe the amazing price tag of composite fuel tanks and fuel cells, etc

jack

i-Blue is capable of running more than 600 km (373 miles) per refueling

The range keeps getting better for these vehicles. Decent-looking design from Hyundai.

Roger Pham

Beautiful design, neat layout and impressive fuel efficiency, speed, and range performance.
Too optimistic projected production date...but we shall see...perhaps the auto mfg's have under their sleeve some magical ways to reduce the cost of FC stack, but that still remains a secret to the public?

Lou Grinzo

Add me to the list of extreme hydrogen skeptics (at least for vehicle use). To me, the biggest hurdle is finding a way to create that much hydrogen in an environmentally sound fashion, and doing so before batteries get good enough to out-compete hydrogen.

I'm not saying that things like the fuel stack, on-board hydrogen storage, distribution, etc., aren't serious issues, as they clearly are. But I think that scaling up hydrogen production without adding to our CO2 emissions is quite a bit tougher.

Once again, I can't recommend Joe Romm's book, The Hype About Hydrogen, highly enough.

jack

I'm not saying that things like the fuel stack, on-board hydrogen storage, distribution, etc., aren't serious issues, as they clearly are. But I think that scaling up hydrogen production without adding to our CO2 emissions is quite a bit tougher.

At 12% efficiency and insolation value of 5, one would need around 63 1 m^2 panels to electrolyze enough hydrogen to fuel a 2nd Gen FCX for the average vehicle miles in a given household . That's about $36K for the panels for 30-40 years of use, or around $1,000/yr. [This doesn't count the power requirement for compression, but it also doesn't factor in any useful heat from electrolysis for site energy.]

By contrast, at average fuel economy and vehicle-miles, the average US household spends about $3,000/yr for gasoline.

From a fuel perspective, it's clearly doable, even with the large amount of driving we do in the US. The question comes down to the other costs and how that may stack up with BEVs.

Ben

Jack,

Not very many people have the money to buy $36k in solar panels; also add in the price of a electrolysis kit, hydrogen fuel tanks, high pressure compressor and of course a hydrogen fuel cell car.

Roger Pham

Ben,
There is no need for many people to shell out $36K to buy solar panels. Energy companies, aka Big Utilities, have the money to do it just fine. Just before oil will be depleted, you can count on Big Oil with very deep pocket to get in on the renewable-energy-to-synthetic-fuels business as well. Average motorists just have to pay at the pump the way they are doing now. Competition among the giant players will ensure the future Hydrogen at the pump will be priced reasonably, UNLESS our anti-trust mechanism breaks down, but that will spell the end of our democracy. So, instead of Shell oil, Exxon-Mobile oil, you'll have Shell hydrogen, or BP hydrogen, or ammonia, or synthetic methane, etc..

Ben

Roger Pham,

Oh I agree, that is far more possible, I was just saying at home synthesis was unreasonable.

sjc

I would rather advance battery technology and have solar panels on the roof of the house. Most drives around town and commutes could be done that way. If you want to go out of town on a long trip, go rent a hybrid.

Ben

sjc,

Well lets see you would need less then half as many panels due to the much greater total efficiency of batteries over hydrogen (85-95% vs 35-40%) and you would not need a electrolysis kit or a compressor or even storage tanks.

Harvey D

sjc,

Another alternative would be to rent an extra battery pack (or two) for longer trips or weekends.

At 200 to 300 Wh/Kg future high power density battery packs will weight around 50 to 60 Kg for 100 to 120 Km. A plug-in second pack could serve as a range extender.

Secondly, since future battery packs will be 'quick charge' with an acceptable 300 Km driving range between quick charges, the need for an on board range extender (extra batteries, fuel cell or ICE generator) would no longer be justified.

Roger Pham

Ben posted: "Well lets see you would need less then half as many panels due to the much greater total efficiency of batteries over hydrogen (85-95% vs 35-40%) and you would not need a electrolysis kit or a compressor or even storage tanks."

Ben, that is a myth that has been perpetuating around by BEV promoter. NOT TRUE.
Hydrogen and Battery Electric from any sources has comparable efficiency from source to wheel.

jack

Cost
Range
Refueling time
Environmental impact

Too much is speculative at this point to see how these technology trajectories will end up.

Neil

Roger is correct in that the end-to-end efficiencies of EVs and FCVs are about the same (different sources give slightly different results).

http://www.veva.bc.ca/wtw/index.htm

I'm sure big oil would pony up very quickly to build the necessary hydrogen infrastructure ... they'll just make us pay for it later.

jack

I'm sure big oil would pony up very quickly to build the necessary hydrogen infrastructure ... they'll just make us pay for it later.

All the more reason to produce it oneself.

Alain

I hope they don't need too much platinum to make the fuel cells. If they do, there will hardly be enough platinum available to build a few million cars. Building the hundreds of millions of cars we need will be completely impossible.
In that case, batteries will certainly win.

jack

I hope they don't need too much lithium to make the batteries. If they do, there will hardly be enough lithium available to build a few million cars. Building the hundreds of millions of cars we need will be completely impossible.
In that case, fuel cells will certainly win.

Ben

Did you consider all the platinum for hundreds of millions of fuel cells cars? Lithium is at ~760$ per kg, platinum is at 40,000$ per kg, lithium is also not that rare and there is plenty of it to mine, for example lithium is alloyed with aluminum in most modern airplanes, a Boeing 747 has ~7000lbs of lithium in it.

Ben

Roger Pham,

Source: Solar Panel Electricity (assume DC-AC conversion for both):
Electrolysis (60-80%) => PEM fuel cell (50%) -> total: 30-40% (compressor loss not included)
Li-I BEV charging (~95%) => Li-I BEV discharging (~95%) -> total: 90%

Ben

I have it all figurred out.

Ben

Oh, please do tell.

Ben

blah pft blub pft blah

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