So if global warming is BS why do you care that US is net absorber of CO2 ? which is not true by the way

(Part of the How to Talk to a Global Warming Skeptic guide)

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates annual U.S. carbon sequestration in 2003, based on data generated by the U.S. Department of agriculture (USDA), at 828.0 million metric tons carbon dioxide equivalent (MMTCO2e), a decline of approximately 21 percent from the 1,042.1 MMTCO2e sequestered in 1990 (Table 33). Land use, land-use change, and forestry practices offset approximately 16.9 percent of total U.S. anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions in 1990 and 11.9 percent in 2003. [page 75-76]With per capita emissions five times greater than the global average, that leaves a lot the world does not have to thank the U.S. for.
http://www.grist.org/article/the-us-is-a-net-carbon-sink/

Two words China , India. If they do not limit there co2 then any reductions made by the west is for not. “climate change” was has and will always be about transfer of capital and wealth from the first world to the developing world it is a the dream of the Socialists Marxists and Communists to redistribute capital, technologies and wealth from the capitalist west who they believe have lived to high on the hog for too long and they have found a way to control, command, and redistribute control the flow of energy and you control every aspect of an industrial economy I will say this once loud and clear ENERGY EQUALS WEALTH AND STANDARD OF LIVING. A professor of mine always said follow the money. So even if we wreak our economy, slash our standards of living why because 80% of our standard of living is dependent on fossil fuels, there is not any ECONOMIC alternative to them PERIOD. At three to ten times the cost “renewable” can be had in limited intermittent supplies but they will never supply the 100 quadrillion BTU demands of this first world economy. Since China and India have said they are not going to throw there economies down the drain the co2 will still go up in smoke. China is already the number one total emitter in the world. Don’t whine about per capita all that matters is total tons emitted from the planets point of view. The whole percapita game is yet another blatant socialist tactic. For the science side percapita means nothing its total tones period. As a scientist you learn that for any climatic shift which this planet has never over geologic time had a stable climate that humans have 2 choices mitigation and adaptation well since China and India are not playing ball that leaves adaptation which this species is quite adept at. The planet is vastly over populated nature has a way of thinning the herd when any species breed past its caring capacity a J curve simply cannot exist for long in nature it is a natural immutable law that following a J curve a peak and a die off has to happen this is just cold science. The world needs 2-3 billion to be at its caring capacity how we get there is up to us, we can let nature do the killing or we can implement global family planning but one way or the other this planet will even out the numbers by famine, war or resource shortages.

HarveyD

Well I just read that China introducing mandatory domestic carbon trading program by 2015.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/07/china-establish-domestic-carbon-trading-program-by-2015.php

So where is US?
I will agree with you that the population should be decreased to limit carbon emission. The logic telling us that it should be started from the population that make the most co2 emission per capita to get immediate effect...that is US...That not particularly good news for me, because I living here in US.

Just weight to around 2015 - we will have oil shock
This is what US military saying about that:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/11/peak-oil-production-supply

That guy in the funny hat is patently false, even if we went to stone age living and zero carbon emissions China and India have taken our place already the total emissions will still rise regardless its just the rate of rise, look at it this way your trapped in a box with a drain hole in it but you are strapped standing up to the floor its being filled by 3 hoses with 2 flowing at the roughly the same rate but as time proceeds one of the 2 equally flowing hoses is rapidly increasing its flow. The 3rd hose is rapidly increasing its rate of flow to almost to the same flow as the other 2. Now turn off the first hose that is slowing increasing its rate but keep the other 2 hoses flowing, and these 2 remaining hoses are flowing at faster and faster rates you are still going to drown this is simply a 3 variable algebra problem the time to die only increases slightly as the flow from the first hose was stopped but 2 and 3’s flow rates soon surpasses the previous combined flow rates of all 3 in very short time. Unless you cut the flow rate of the remaining 2 to a rate that is less than the drain flow rate you are going to drown. Dead is dead its only a time variable.

Like I said Adaptation is the only choice mitigation is not an option economically or politically. Those who try to force a reduction of lifestyle and take capital & wealth by force in a society that votes is flirting with disaster and there ultimate ruin. This is a middle right country over the last 20 years a steady 40% have identified themselves as conservative, 30% as moderate independent and only 20% as liberal or progressive. This has held true for 20 plus years the moderates are rapidly figuring out the scam that was Nov 08 and Nov 10 is going to be a total wash out as this country swings firmly back to our roots of its core middle right. I am a hunter and avid conservationist I love nature but dont drink the koolaid of statism or the idea that redistribution of wealth and limiting standard of living will make this planet a better place shared misery is not the answer and never will be. Nature picks winners and losers this is how the world works it's not fair but it is the natural law. There is a steep die off coming as we are out of balance with the carrying capacity and nature will restore that balance with our without our consent. The US citizenry is already in negative growth were it not for our illegal immigration that is still swelling our total
numbers. The mass die off will not be in north america it will be were people continue to foolishly breed past the capacity of there lands, Africa, South Asia ect these people need to stop breeding its just that simple.

Er... "That not particularly good news for me, because I living here in US."

Marking down for grammar.

Like I said Adaptation is the only choice mitigation is not an option economically or politically

You can only say that if you know the cost of each option. Please produce cost estimates for each option, with evidence, or admit this is all blahblah.

Nature picks winners and losers this is how the world works it's not fair but it is the natural law.

How very true. Guess what nature's pick will be if we continue to dogmatically reject her laws.

Yesterdays's winners are not necessarily today's winners.
Today's winners are not necessarily tomorrow's winners.

Past winners have often destroyed themselves with self interest lobbies, greed and corruption.

History repeats itself and the above will happen again.

An excess of participation, pressure groups self interest, misguided religious activists, manufactured false news, powerful financial groups greed and quest for quick profits, political gymnastics to get re-elected, lack of political will, lack of individual will, etc are making our democracies harder to govern effectively. Essential laws and regulations are delayed, blocked or watered down. Corrections are not made in a timely manner. Too few benefit from the current turmoil and the majority is loosing ground every day. The nation has been chasing its tail for too long and may be on the downward path, as is the case with traditional fossil fuels. Are we overdue for a few necessary amendments to fix things up?

Note: Warmer weather has favored the multiplication of miniature corn grey worms in many American States and Canadian Provinces in the last few months. If unchecked, this may reduce corn crop considerably in a very short time frame. What will be the effect on corn ethanol and corn price? Will grey worms move to other grains next year or next month?

Seriously, though. Haven't you all noticed the sudden wealth of new stories concerning giant sink holes opening up around the globe, the rapidly increasing melting of the polar ice caps, and NOW we're discovering new species of frogs, lizards, and locusts popping up all over the place?
I'm just sayin'.....

Harvey - Nothing to worry about. I'm sure you've read the other article about Peak Coal and how we're supposed to reach that next year. Yup, Peak Coal by 2011.
And Peak Cheap Oil by 2020.
Which puts the strain on Natural Gas yields. So all those studies saying the US has enough to last 200 years will see those numbers drop to year, oh, 2020 or 2025.
So all the concern about dropping fresh water levels, flood ravaged low-lying areas and drought ravaged high land areas is all for naught.
Because, as I've stated before (*ahem*)...
WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!! SAVE ME JOHN CUSACK!!! AIIIEEEEE!!!!

http://lakemead.water-data.com/

EP: Per capita GHG emissions in China and India is still very low (1/5 to 1/8) compared to USA and Canada. Due to the arrival of higher efficiency power plants, electrified vehicles, e-trains, more nuclear plants, more wind and solar power plants etc; their per capita GHG may never reach our high level.

How many 70% efficient coal (or NG) power plants do we have in operation?

Do we plan to build them soon?

I believed that our coal power plants were about 40% to 45% efficient (average for the 436 plants). Many large ship diesel are more efficient than that.