I said here in THIS WEBSITE not too long ago to recirculate co2 expels in making fuels ( like green algae biodiesel and ethanol and fart gas( methane))directly with the co2 expels from big chimney especially like coal and n. gas electric poer stations that feed green algae farming to make fuels out of the co2 instead of releasing it into the air or trading co2 limits permits like they do actually to make some cash with pollution like main goverments have organized it recently. so the fuels is always re-use indifinatly instead of been gone forever. i know this will make the coal sellers go bankrupt and lower the price of electricity for all customer while stopping big polution and also this will stop the need to buy natural gas for natural gas electric stations but as a cheap consumers with electric needs it's a bargain.

This website is a mad scientists website totally incompetant working for goverments, wall street traders.and the major posters are el-crap subsidized bloggers el-cheapo with less scientifics skill then primary schools kids.

Yes;
And how does one go about applying for el-crap subsidies.

I find it laughable how the NRDC perpetuates its marxist / socialist viewpoints by conveniently ignoring what is going on in the rest of the world. The crash in the real estate market in 2007 has reduced US emissions, but car sales and industrialization in China and India have increased theirs, so there was a big decrease but emissions are going back up & will surpass what they were then soon...especially when you consider Amazon rainforest deforestation. The NRDC needs to stop b i t c h i n g about America and open offices in China, India and Brazil --- be an advocate for the environment where there are bigger fish to fry.

ejj

especially when you consider Amazon rainforest deforestation

Actually, Brazil seems to have been quite successful in recent years. We'll see if it holds up. We sure could use some good news on that front.

Reel$$,

Please keep those declarations of the 'dead climate campaign' coming. A bit louder perhaps. You never know, those CO2 molecules up there might hear it and change their absorption spectrum. I'll make sure you get a Nobel Prize when it happens.

Theres nothing wrong with walking & cycling which are both enjoyable activities (unless it rains!), or taking public transport. The problem is that all of them have their rightful place, and even by expanding their potential cars will be needed to fill the hole that's left. Simple as that.

Of course, there is scope to make cars themselves more efficient. EVs are on the horizon, although I'm a bit concerned that their limited range (at the moment) and hence use for short urban journeys will put them in direct competition with public transport.

However, there is also ongoing research on advancing biofuels - cellulistic conversion of biomass, algae, seaweed etc etc, then theres the potential to capture and convert CO2 from major emitters and of course the atmosphere.

Climate change or not, if people are right about peak oil, then its time to ramp up on all fronts. there is not one single panacea. But one of the big things that the US needs is better planning. Unfortunately the millions of square miles of sprawl that has been developed over the last 60 years will be very difficult to reverse.

Its about getting a balanced strategy which most people are happy with, that achieves these goals and ita a case of just getting on with it. Oh and politics just delays it.

Somke

as I have said on the WEBSITE and will recirculate.

Car makers are going kicking and screaming into EV's

GM volt that has 2 motors keeping everyone on gas with all the ongoing maintenance costs. EV's last longer and have lower maintence and parts. Until they can engineer some ongoing expense, something that gets you into the shop every 5000 miles. Common with the differnce in price between the volt and the leaf. You think nissan couldnt have added and option for more range.

increasing the gas tax would kill jobs and make everything expensive from food etc.

causing a big inflation bubble

I support incentives for renewables (primarily through tax breaks for renewable energy business, not grants for academia) for energy independence. Energy independence is a major contributing factor to national security. However America could be energy independent & carbon neutral while the BRIC countries put one million cars per month on the road and thousands of additional square miles of rainforest are chopped down. If there is only America-bashing without an admission of what is going on elsewhere & getting them to change, it is useless from an emissions standpoint.

ds,

Oh, another thing about the car companies.

You say:

EV's last longer and have lower maintence and parts. Until they can engineer some ongoing expense, something that gets you into the shop every 5000 miles. Common with the differnce in price between the volt and the leaf.

Large companies have big power and marketing can do magic, but there are limits. If the public really wants EV's, then it's unstoppable. If GM and the rest won't produce them, Tesla will. If it turns out consumers prefer the vehicles with the longest range, then that's what they will produce. Last time I checked, capitalism was still working. By the way, both Daimler and Toyota are partnering with Tesla.

And going into the shop every 5000 miles? I had a VW Polo ten years ago that only needed service every 30,000 km. What's different in the US?

As far as marketing GM and the Car companys made everybody think bigger was better TANK SUV were next

new cars in the manual says change the oil every 5k
I dont personally do that i think it is a waste
but it is called making money, maintenance cost over the life of a car is more than the purchase price, plus it gets you back into the dealership.

Daimler and tesla will be selling cars for 80k+ to make up for the long term maintenance, GM, toyota cant do that.

As much as i would like it to be a 28k leaf that gets 200 miles, and last 30 years, that wont happen. Not enough profit in it and after all we can demand it but it they cant do it without losing money they wont do it

GHG and fossil fuel consumption are linked. If we reduce fossil fuel consumption we reduce GHG...a two fer.

Anne: You never know, those CO2 molecules up there might hear it and change their absorption spectrum. I'll make sure you get a Nobel Prize when it happens.

Thanks for the generous offer. However you should be equally worried about other nefarious gases such as, CH4, N2O, CCl2F2, CHClF2, CF4, SF6 whose spectral absorption is from 21 to 23,000 times that of CO2. And do not forget the most heinous of GHG, WATER VAPOR, acknowledged by grounded men of science as responsible for 95% of the "greenhouse effect." That's H2O. Eeeek!

Most other GHG's are also being regulated as well. The most significant and steadily increasing by far is CO2.

H20 has always been with us for billions of years, and the atmosphere can hold only so much H2O...more H2O vapor, and we will have precipitation!!! aka rain or snow!!! No need to worry about regulating H2O vapor...it will regulate itself. We need the GHG effect of H2O, or else, the earth will be freezing like Mars.