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Lotus will reveal Type 130 electric hypercar on 16 July

Lotus confirmed that it will reveal the Type 130, the brand’s first all-new model in more than a decade (earlier post), to the media at an event in Central London on 16 July.

Following first confirmation of the project in April at the Shanghai International Auto Show, several hundred potential owners have come forward to express their interest in the new car. The company announced that a maximum of just 130 examples will be available to own—representing the number of Lotus ‘Types’ introduced during the brand’s 71-year history.

Lotus also confirms today that Type 130 will be built at Hethel in Norfolk, the brand’s headquarters since 1966.

Comments

mahonj

I am a bit skeptical about electric hypercars. They can have very good acceleration, and claim good range, but the range is typically at 60mph (or less) as the energy storage is too low for long range high speed cruising. Nothing like a BMW 840d (which will probably be a great deal cheaper to boot).

gryf

My guess is the Lotus 130 will be similar to the Lotus Evora, a little wider (78 inches vs Evora 's 74.2 inches). The car is being built with assistance of Williams Advanced Engineering. Williams Advanced Engineering has a joint manufacturing venture called Hyperbat that is building the battery and electric drive for the Aton Martin Rapide E. So possibly a similar 65 kWh battery like the Rapide E or slightly larger if the Lotus 130 has more than 610 hp (estimates are around 1000 hp). Probably have a range slightly more than 200 miles and top speed greater than 155 mph.
The key thing to look for will be vehicle weight which is a Lotus trademark (as Colin Chapman said "“Simplify, then add lightness").

mahonj

@Gryff: “Simplify, then add lightness" - works well with fossil fueled cars, but not so well with battery powered cars - consider the Tesla model S - 2100 - 2240 Kg.
The 85KwH battery weighs 540Kg, which is more than entire Lotus Elite from 1962 (504kg).

Also, consider a 1000 hp car. Lets call it 800 Kw. Suppose it has a 100 KwH battery. Then you can drive for 8 minutes at full power.
lets say you are saner than that, and drive at 1/4 that. You still only get 30 minutes.
And so on. 100 kw = 1 hour, 50 Kw = 2 hours - sounds reasonable - but why did you buy a hypercar if you are going to drive it at 1/16 th of its rated power.
(To keep your license, I suppose).
Am I missing something, or do I just not get hypercars.

mahonj

OK, Sorry for the raving.
I found a good graph here:
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/07/15/tesla-range-plotted-relative-to-speed-temperature-graphs/
(Pity it is in m/sec for speed).
Anyway, at 20 Kw, you can go 67 mph, so you could get 5 hours and 335 miles travelled from it on a 100 KwH battery - reasonable range, but not hypercar style driving.

Engineer-Poet

I think you don't get the kind of people who buy hypercars.

Neither do I.

gryf

Remember the Lotus 130 will be built with the help of Williams Advanced Engineering who has been involved with Formula E (they built the first gen battery). The current Formula E battery weighs 250 kg and has 57 kWh, so we are looking at 300 kg or less.
For comparison, the Lotus Evora has a 400 hp supercharged Toyota V6 that weighs around 200 kg, not a 1.2l Coventry Climax 4 cylinder like the 1962 Lotus Elite.
The Formula E engines have a power to weight of 8:1 and are designed to operate at high output. Also the battery will use high power density 2170 batteries (probably Sony) and will handle top speed better than a Tesla.
The Lotus 130 will be roughly the same size as the Ferrari SF90 Stradale PHEV which weighs 3461 lbs dry, Heavier than a Ferrari 488 or F8 Tributo or Lotus Evora (all around 1435 kg or 3164 lbs). The Ferrari SF90 Stradale PHEV has almost 1000 hp, an all electric range of 15.5 miles and will cost around $1 million.

gryf

Correction the McLaren Gen2 Formula E car has 54 kWh of usable energy. The Formula E battery has to propel cars to speeds of up to 225kph for the duration of the race (up to 45 minutes).

gryf

After reviewing the Aston Martin Rapide E, noticed that the 65 kW battery used 5600 18650 cells. Williams Advanced Engineering should be able to make the battery with an energy density of 215 Wh/kg at the pack level matching Formula E battery energy density, so 300 kg pack weight for 65 kWh usable energy.
If Lotus uses YASA motors (the Ferrari SF90 Stradale PHEV uses YASA) they could use the YASA EDU concept e-motor and controller that gets 300 kW peak @ 700V and weighs 85kg - figure 340 kW @ 800V, one EDU per axle so over 900 hp total.

electric-car-insider.com

Hyper cars are kinetic art + engineering.

Dr. Frank Walliser, Porsche 918 Spyder Project Manager explained to me at the LA Auto Show: “It is to show what is possible”.

As Tesla has demonstrated, establishing an aspirational pinnacle inspires and creates demand.

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