VW ID.7 Pro S covers 794 km on one battery charge with 86-kWh battery (net)
03 October 2024
Driving the new all-electric ID.7 Pro S, the Volkswagen Team Switzerland headed by project lead Felix Egolf, an expert in long-distance driving with electric cars, successfully covered a total of 794 kilometers (493.4 miles) with a single battery charge in a net driving time of 15 hours and 42 minutes.
This significantly exceeded the model’s maximum WLTP range (combined) of up to 709 kilometers. The comfortable touring sedan was driven on public roads and in normal traffic flow throughout the entire daytime journey.
The vehicle was driven on an approximately 81-kilometer circuit in the Zug metropolitan area south of Zurich. The route profile was in line with everyday driving and included main through-roads, motorway sections and country roads with hilly transitions. Eight different drivers covered a total of 794 kilometers in two consecutive days on just one battery charge.
This is roughly equivalent to the route from Basel to Emden in northern Germany, where the ID.7 is built. The average consumption was a low 10.3 kWh/100 km. In comparison, the lowest WLTP value of the model is 13.6. Converted to diesel, the average consumption achieved corresponds to only about 1.1 liters per 100 km.
The range of 794 km was driven during the day in normal traffic flow in the middle of last week—with an average speed of 51 km/h. The remaining range displayed was two kilometers. Another interesting detail: the model driven was not the most range-favourable equipment variant of the ID.7 Pro S. According to WLTP calculations, the vehicle, which features optional equipment such as the Comfort package, IQ.DRIVE assist systems package, Plus exterior package and a heat pump, would have reached a WLTP range of 700 km.
In 2020 and 2021, Egolf completed two record-breaking drives in the ID.3: once, he significantly exceeded the theoretical range of the ID.31st from Zwickau in Saxony (Germany) to Schaffhausen (Switzerland) by covering 531 km. In the second record attempt with a larger battery, the ID.3 Pro S managed a total of 602 km on a single charge—across 15 Alpine passes and with 13,000 metres of altitude.
Due to its new efficiency drive and excellent aerodynamics (drag coefficient of 0.23 depending on equipment), the ID.7 Pro S is economical on the road. Depending on optional equipment, a combined WLTP consumption of 16.2 to 13.6 kWh/100 km was determined for the ID.7 Pro S. With the most range-favorable equipment, the WLTP range is up to 709 km.
The optional Electric Vehicle Route Planner in the ID.7 is also helpful—this calculates an optimum route taking into account the current battery charge and the available charging stations along the route. It shows the driver the best charging points and plans the necessary charging stops to make the journey efficient. It also takes real-time traffic data into account to find the fastest and most convenient route.
What a stupid waste of time. 790 km in 16 hours??? This car is capable of a 9-10 hour time for covering 1000 km with two 20 minutes stops for charging, food and bathroom visits. It just requires driving at the legal speed and knowing how to use a route planner!!!!
Posted by: Bernard Harper | 03 October 2024 at 02:38 AM
It goes to show that "range anxiety" is a fake problem in 2024.
Renault found-out that most consumers were charging their Zoe once a week, 10 years ago. Now many drivers only need to charge once a month, paying 1/10th what they would for petrol.
Posted by: Bernard | 03 October 2024 at 05:43 AM
The test is BS as it is at an average speed of 51kph.
When people are doing long drives, they drive at 100 - 140kph, not 51.
A more impressive test would be to do the Basel to Emden route mentioned above at "normal" autobahn speeds, not racing, not dawling, just whatever the traffic is doing in the autobahn slow lane.
Maybe also repeat at in the middle lane (i.e. faster).
Posted by: mahonj | 03 October 2024 at 06:08 AM
I don't have range anxiety, per se, but would still welcome more range. The actual, net 'range' depends on a multitude of factors.
Often the SoC (state of charge) is in the 10-80% range, so only 70% of the theoretically possible. Then there is temperature, rain (takes 10-20% more pr km), speed, wind, etc. In my car I have experience anything between 170 - 260 Wh/km consumption going 130 km/h (81 mph).
Another factor is that the 'just show up' price for high power chargers in Europe is about 1 $/kWh, i.e. 10-20 times higher than my home wall charger during the cheapest hours. For that reason, I may pay for a subscription to cut the price per kWh in half, meaning that I can now use 5% of the chargers on my way, and end up being limited in range and/or speed of travel between two charging points on long journeys.
My own pattern of consumption is 95% home charging, outside of vacation trips, which in turn may be 4000 km, which can end up being very expensive.
Bottom line: Every additional 100 km range removes situations where you are limited in your use of an EV, either by having to charge on a relatively short trip, or having to slow down and go 110 km/h in a 130 zone in you 0-100 in 5 sec. car. Which feels slightly silly...
Posted by: Thomas Pedersen | 03 October 2024 at 06:11 AM
mahonj,
51km/h is a representative average speed for day-to-day driving. For Basel to Emden (roughly 800km), you would need one charging/rest stop of around 20 minutes. There are dozens of fast charging options en route that you can choose from, the main decider being either your bladder or your stomach (or both).
Posted by: Bernard | 03 October 2024 at 07:25 AM
One thing to mention is that some of the same issues come-up with fossil cars. You would never run a gasoline tank dry, because doing so will inevitably result in a failed fuel pump. Fossil cars also have less range at high speeds than at moderate speeds, and they also lose range in inclement weather.
This sort of test is simply meant to show a theoretical range. Normal people refuel/recharge before they need to call for a tow!
Posted by: Bernard | 03 October 2024 at 07:56 AM
We read the report and comments here. Many people never drive more than 700km without a break! That's the way it is and it's not possible because people always need a break and 10 hours in the car is not possible without a toilet, as we know.
Whether a 2.5 tonne, 5m big BEV is ecological with technology from distant countries, possibly assembled in Germany, is doubtful, but EU policy demands it. Well, a normal person needs a break after 2 hours and then they can possibly charge the BEV with electricity. The only positive thing about this BEV test is the low consumption of electricity on long distances when driving quietly in the BEV without the heating and air conditioning on.
For comparison, my ICE:
My 2005 ICE powered mini-car roadster, OPEL TIGRA TwinTop with approx. 1.4L 87HP (N/A-ICE) and only 1200kg empty weight + driver can also drive over 700km with 40 liters of SuperE10 petrol (S-E10) and the tank is still not empty so that the petrol pump can continue to function and does not suck in air.
We/I have never driven these 700km in one go because it is a roadster convertible that you want to and should enjoy. All of this is also possible with 80mls and the consumption of S-E10 is still very low, so it does not increase as some people think.
Of course I also have a BMW E46-3 330xd 6-speed manual that easily runs over 1001km on diesel without having to fill up with HVO100 as this is not possible everywhere, but I do not need to describe that here.
Posted by: Herman | 04 October 2024 at 01:26 AM
Bernard,
The reduced range in bad weather is also present for ICE cars, although not nearly as pronounced, as ICEs get more efficient at higher loads (higher torque, same rpm) whereas EVs suffer even greater internal resistance in the battery, not to say anything about the efficiency of the e-motor (which depends on its type).
I'm a numbers nerd, so I notice these things very vividly, as a comparison between my previous BMW 325d and my current BMW i4 eDrive40
And like I said, the cost differential from subscription/non-subscription at HPCs is currently massive. Before our latest trip down Europe, I spent quite a while plotting out prospective charging spots along our route with both attractive prices and attractive food/shopping nearby. Because in Germany, the offerings may be abysmal and in Italy, they may be zero!
Posted by: Thomas Pedersen | 04 October 2024 at 05:03 AM
Thomas,
For bad weather, it really depends. Here in Canada it's commonplace to have an ambient temperature of -15C on winter mornings, in which case an ICE engine will waste tremendous amounts of fuel warming-up to operating temperatures. That has a disproportionate effect for shorter drives. With an EV you can just get in and drive, provided the windshield is clear (which it usually is at those temperatures because of low humidity).
That warm-up time has less effect for longer drives over 100km, but it's very significant for day-to-day driving.
Posted by: Bernard | 04 October 2024 at 06:28 AM
WE don't see that the BEV should be compared to the CAR with ICE because they are completely different categories. The ICE vehicle needs more fuel when starting cold (only petrol/gasoline engine) (diesel less) but you also drive straight away and then the engine is fully warm after usually 1mls, as we know. Electric heaters are being installed more and more often in ICE vehicles. Many OEMs have avoided installing temperature displays in ICE vehicles for years so that the customer doesn't know exactly when the ICE is cold, warm or hot. Why?
Regarding the comment from cold Canada:
As YOU know, in Canada the ICE engines are preheated electrically via a socket at home so that they can always "start warm". The point here is that they want to avoid frost damage. But as you should know, the batteries in BEVs are always "heated or cooled" because otherwise the BEV batteries are dead. Only the 12V lead battery is not heated and therefore dies after a short time when it is extremely cold.
On the comment on the BMW 325d (E9x?) and BMW i4 eDrive40:
Both are extremely different vehicles, although the 325d is still a real car that was built lightweight. The i4 eDrive40 is a heavyweight like all BEVs and so ICE cars and BEVs are fundamentally not comparable, regardless of weight, CO2 or sustainability, because my BMW E46 LCI 330xd 6-speed manual is from 2005 and will probably last another 20 years, then powered by HVO100/E-Fuels.
BEVs usually go through the recycling phase after 20 years and what is ecological now???
By the way, the electricity for the BEV does not come from the socket in an ecological way but has to be produced with "effort".
Wind turbines and solar cells usually only last 20 years.
The fact is that nothing can be as ecological as some ecologists think and want to write...
Posted by: Herman | 05 October 2024 at 01:37 AM
WE don't see that the BEV should be compared to the CAR with ICE
Of course you can compare them
Posted by: SJC | 05 October 2024 at 02:57 AM
Herman, it's easy to say stuff like "my ICE will last for 35 years," "EV batteries will inevitably fail," "all cars in Canada use block heaters" (maybe in the carburettor and 10W40 dinosaur oil days?). That's just stretching the truth in every direction in order to make a point.
Frankly, we don't know that EV batteries will need replacement after 20 years, we only have 10 years of real data, and it doesn't point to that conclusion. As long as no company repeats the mistakes of the Leaf we should be fine. What we do know is that many modern battery chemistries show 1-2% degradation per year in the real world, so you 800KM car might be just a 600km car. We also know that older "survivor" classic cars tend to lead an easy life as hobby transport. Cars that are used every day reach their design lifecycle in their second decade.
Block heaters are no longer required for temperatures above -40C. Cars start just fine at those temperatures, so people let them run until they are warmed-up enough to drive. Sure, you'll see more use of block heaters in the Arctic or in very cold places (Northern Manitoba, for instance), but they aren't as common as they used to be in.
High-quality 12V batteries should last for a decade. Cheap ones last for a couple of years. If yours are dying after a short time you should think of switching to a different brand.
Posted by: Bernard | 07 October 2024 at 07:13 AM